ST Continues "To Boldly Go": A Fan Edit

Discussion in 'Fan Productions' started by albion432, Jan 31, 2020.

  1. albion432

    albion432 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I found this "fan edit" of the two part Star Trek Continues episode. To me it feels even more like an actual episode of TOS. I found a lot of the little "annoying" parts and extraneous plot threads have been cut out. But that's my opinion. What do you think of it?


    Here are the original two parts for comparison:

     
  2. Bixby

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    I gave up after 15 minutes. Sorry, but there just is no way to make that ''story'' make any sense...
     
  3. Maurice

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    Their scripts were typically mediocre compared to their production values.
     
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  4. albion432

    albion432 Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    I originally posted this fan edit (along with the original version as a comparison) because, having seen the original, I felt that the editor did a decent job of cutting out a lot of unnecessary dialog that only muddle the story or made it feel un-TOS-like. The edit, in my eyes, helped raise the episode to be more on-par with TOS. I was able to follow the story in both version, but going forward if I ever want to revisit it, I will watch the fan edit.

    I'm curious to know how do you feel about it? Did the edit improve the story, or make it worse?
     
  5. Maurice

    Maurice Maurice, the ATARI CX5200 Premium Member

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    Honestly I’m not watching it again. The edit might be an improvement, but as the story was a big meh no amount of editing can make it worth the effort.
     
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  6. Bixby

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    I`ll give you a partial answer, but frankly there is so much nonsense in there that I could be writing this all day...Here goes:
    It`s obvious they wanted a final episode like TNG`s ALL GOOD THINGS..., one that revisits the setting and some characters from ''their'' first episode. But here are SOME major problems:
    ( 1 ) Why did Lana and her husband stay on the planet instead of being with the other Espers?.
    ( 2 ) All the 30 Espers, Lana and her husband were already transformed, so why go back to the barrier?
    ( 3 ) Why bother with the Romulan charade at all? Both Lana and her husband had their powers for weeks, they should have been powerful enough to just take the Enterprise by force.
    ( 4 ) If the Espers were powerful enough to destroy a handful of Starships, why not just commandeer one to go to the barrier instead of that smaller ship?
    ( 5 ) Why bother saying they were about 30 Espers and you only ever show a handful of them?

    I`m going to stop there before I give myself an aneurysm :) we already have 2 threads here where some of us elaborated in more detail months ago...Look some members adored that series despite its obvious weaknesses, all of them having to do with their scripts. I enjoyed some aspects of STC, mainly aesthetic ones and Todd Haberkorn possibly being the most satisfying portrayal of Spock since Leonard Nimoy, and that`s including Zachary Quinto.
     
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    Bixby, I hadn't made the connection between To Boldly Go and All Good Things--a great observation. STC's biggest problem is in it writing/storytelling, but then again, that is true for the vast majority of film. If there's going to be a stand-out issue, its likely the writing. That said, STC is, in my opinion, the best TOS-era fan film series in production values and acting, and, despite what I just said, in the writing too. Even Star Trek: New Voyages/Phase II pales in comparison to STC. Axanar has excellent production values, and is better written than STC, but it doesn't attempt to emulate the feel of TOS.

    Here are some general observations about these fan films, first in how they vary from official episodes:
    1. They are always derivative of official episodes, either as a sequels to the original episode or they use some aspect/character from a TOS episode. Perhaps it is in the DNA of these productions to do so--since they are already derivative by nature. This is a departure from the official cannon, which rarely referenced a previous episode. Once this pattern is noticed it quickly becomes annoying.
    2. I also hate the references/homoges made to events/characters/terminology not found in TOS. It always sticks out like a sore thumb.
    3. These fan films lack the subtlety of the original. They are way too preachy and overt, again, a problem with writing.
    4. A big problem with the acting is that their portrayals often misses the mark. Kirk gives inappropriately nasty looks at the wrong times, leading you to think there is some underlying problem where there is none. Say what you will about Shatner, he was always on-point and hit the right tone consistently. A tough act to follow.
    5. The constant questioning of orders/second guessing a superior officer in fan films is beyond annoying. The supporting cast have way too many opinions (in my opinion). Agree with it or not, Vic needed to be more of a Shatner when it came to cutting or taking lines given to the secondary characters. It this is any example of how TOS could have been, Shatner made the right call in insisting on streamlining the scripts to feature the lead actors (mainly himself).

    Like you, I could go on and on, but here are a few things that these fan films have helped me to realize:
    1. Just how incredibly talented and professional the cast and crew of TOS were. Top industry professionals. Period. They were able to produce a superior show on a weekly basis, within the limitations of 60s network television, than these fan films can manage with 6 months to a year to produce a single episode.
    2. They demonstrate how without a network, sponsors, and the general public to keep tuned in, an episode can become a tedious, confusing, and convoluted mess.
    3. My final observation is STC specific. It is not the same type of show that TOS was. TOS was by-in-large an action adventure with dramatic undertones. It also ventured into other genres like horror, fantasy, and comedy too. STC is by-in-large a melodrama with some elements of action-adventure. One big reason for the difference is likely financial. An action adventure story is likely much more expensive to produce than a drama, so that's understandable when you're producing episodes out of your own pocket. But even the more dramatic episodes of TOS were much more engaging that these fan films.

    I've ripped on them enough. I hope the big takeaway is the appreciation these fan films produce in me for the actual article.
     
  8. Kor

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    I don't like how the "fan edit" ended right with McKenna's demise.

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  9. Maurice

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    You made me look at the end. That's terrible.
     
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    Yeah, that's not a proper story ending at all.
    (not to mention being a poorly-done scene in and of itself, to put it diplomatically)

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    I did as well! Now I need to find the chemical eye wash station...
     
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    I had only ever made it halfway through Part 1 of the original, months ago. Joanne Linville's daughter(?) as the Romulan Commander was inspired casting, but the story dragged. I decided to check out the end of Part 2 just now. Again, the dialogue just drags. Loooong speeches that contain predictable sentences and sentiments to bridge TOS and TMP. The introduction of TMP's rec deck is fun. Would have loved to have seen a few aliens there.

    But I think the idea of a "fan edit" on a fan film is more than a bit insulting. I hope no one out there is reorganising the paragraphs of my old fanzine stories or redrawing my fan art.
     
  13. Maurice

    Maurice Maurice, the ATARI CX5200 Premium Member

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    Yeah, I have some similar concerns. I can understand the desire to try to fix or improve something you think is broken. Lord knows I've privately recut stuff as editing exercises, but putting them out for public consumption is kinda...disrespectful, I guess.