SPOILERS - Wonder Woman 1984 - Review Thread
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This is exactly how it played out with my wife as we were watching the movie.
I thought the first Wonder Woman was OK at best, heavily emulating the MCU model, and Patty Jenkins was great at pulling a decent performance out of a mediocre Gal Gadot. Elena Anaya and Chris Pine made '17 Wonder Woman for me on hindsight.
Aquaman was a bit of a mess but a visual/action/comedy feast, Joker was the Logan of the DCEU (the best DC comic film since the Nolan Bat trilogy), Birds Of Prey still intrigues me, and Shazzam was a whimsical antidote to the growing MCU bombast and bloat.
Five OK to great films out of six (from '17 WW to '20 WW84) is not a shocking track record.
Aquaman was a bit of a mess but a visual/action/comedy feast, Joker was the Logan of the DCEU (the best DC comic film since the Nolan Bat trilogy), Birds Of Prey still intrigues me, and Shazzam was a whimsical antidote to the growing MCU bombast and bloat.
Five OK to great films out of six (from '17 WW to '20 WW84) is not a shocking track record.
Is this a sports contest? 5 out of 6 generally wins the series.
Honestly, you should stop watching movies.
Apparently you've never met me.
I'm glad you liked it.
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Which is why the DCEU = "shit" meme needs to die in a barn fire (alongside the MCU = "terrible villains" opinion).
And who among us has never done that?
He's dead Jim.
Well, if you've never been there, you aren't trying hard enough.
I like movies where the main character grows and changes.
I kind of take your point, but look back to the opening monologue. She wishes she had paid more attention.
Well, yeah. That was the point.
This film was, apart from entertainment, intended to bring her from WW1 to , eventually, now. It's a bridge. It shows us Diana still being a hero in little ways, but keeping herself in the shadows. She is still, after decades, hurting over Steve. After this movie she has dealt with it, but still lacks a true connection to the present. BvsS shows her stepping out and getting involved again.
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Glad to see learning how to multiquote is possible.
Superhero ones anyway - they've become tediously repetitive. I might stand one more GotG.
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Missed opportunity but Steve Trevor should have passed the Enterprise in the Smithsonian.
Not having seen the movie, but following my family and friends postings on Facebook, they all agree it's a bad movie; it does bring up a question.
The movie was originally scheduled to come out November 1, 2019, by before being moved to June 5, 2020, them being moved and postponed again due to COVID-19.
Do you think the studio and the director knew there were problems with the movie and moved the release date in order to do some quick reshoots/editing in order to fix these issues but the pandemic scuttled these plans and they decided to go ahead and put it out there as is?
The movie was originally scheduled to come out November 1, 2019, by before being moved to June 5, 2020, them being moved and postponed again due to COVID-19.
Do you think the studio and the director knew there were problems with the movie and moved the release date in order to do some quick reshoots/editing in order to fix these issues but the pandemic scuttled these plans and they decided to go ahead and put it out there as is?
No. The movie was well-reviewed leading up to its release, and it's the most successful film of a very bad year. The studio's happy with the performance of the thing. The fact that some people don't like a film is not something that major studios are unfamiliar with or panic about; they're concerned with whether it meets their expectations in terms of numbers. This is arguably difficult to gauge this year, but they've given an early greenlight to the third one based on the box office success of this one.
The fact that some ugly fanbois on Rotten Tomatoes want to sink it is...par for the course these days. They always fail.
I think it is funny and a great spoof of the movie.
Here are 5 reasons Screenrant is clickbait (and 5 reasons they aren't).
Well, that was certainly a movie I watched...
Kinda hard to organise my thoughts on this one. It's wasn't *bad* exactly, just...really lacking in connective tissue.
Like the individual scenes were all fine and entertaining, with some great performances all around, and it's not like the plot lacked coherence; I was never at a loss as to what was going on and everything proceeded in a reasonably consistent internal logic...and yet there's something missing. The entire second act was basically rudderless.
Some of the Middle East stuff was just...oof! That'd be clumsy at the best of times, but when the movie has an Israeli in the lead role, that's really not a good look!
And I know this is a really nitpicky thing to mention, but what was the deal with the flying scene? Was she actually lassoing clouds? I mean she's a demigod, if you want her to fly, just have her fly. This feels like an unnecessary step...that also looked a bit too silly to my eyes. Also didn't the trailer have her swinging on lighting bolts instead for that scene? Don't get me wrong, that's still pretty ridiculous, but at least it's the more entertaining "cover of a metal album" brand of ridiculous, and has at least a bit more logic to it given the whole "daughter of Zeus" thing.
What all of these seems to add up to for me is that the script really could have done with another draft or two (or maybe one less!) And quite possibly some more time spent in the editing bay. All very unfortunate since I really enjoyed the first movie (despite it's rather flat third act) and I really wanted to enjoy this one more.
Kinda hard to organise my thoughts on this one. It's wasn't *bad* exactly, just...really lacking in connective tissue.
Like the individual scenes were all fine and entertaining, with some great performances all around, and it's not like the plot lacked coherence; I was never at a loss as to what was going on and everything proceeded in a reasonably consistent internal logic...and yet there's something missing. The entire second act was basically rudderless.
Some of the Middle East stuff was just...oof! That'd be clumsy at the best of times, but when the movie has an Israeli in the lead role, that's really not a good look!
And I know this is a really nitpicky thing to mention, but what was the deal with the flying scene? Was she actually lassoing clouds? I mean she's a demigod, if you want her to fly, just have her fly. This feels like an unnecessary step...that also looked a bit too silly to my eyes. Also didn't the trailer have her swinging on lighting bolts instead for that scene? Don't get me wrong, that's still pretty ridiculous, but at least it's the more entertaining "cover of a metal album" brand of ridiculous, and has at least a bit more logic to it given the whole "daughter of Zeus" thing.
What all of these seems to add up to for me is that the script really could have done with another draft or two (or maybe one less!) And quite possibly some more time spent in the editing bay. All very unfortunate since I really enjoyed the first movie (despite it's rather flat third act) and I really wanted to enjoy this one more.
Good for you, but that's no reason to inflict it on everyone else.
Having had time to reflect on the movie, it is very much designed as an eighties movie. The plot very much reflects that aesthetic in terms of both story and pacing. The plane, taking over the body of some random guy, the long build up are all things that would not have been out of place in that decade.
I love Ryan George's skits. I hope post pandemic him and Nolke can go all out and have a video with all their different personalities interacting!
Good for you.
Screw 'em, I always like "Pitch Meeting" (I'll open myself up for an easy attack...).
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