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Spoilers Spider-Noir discussion thread

I read thru the first page after seeing the 1st episode last night. Mrs U wanted the colour version, I'll try it in B&W next episode.

It's not The Maltese Falcon or They Drive By Night, but it presented the usual Noir aesthetic really well and made me want to see the next one.
 
Five eps in and enjoying it so far.
So...I understand how the radioactive animal DNA give Ben and some of the others their powers but what animal DNA turned Flint into sand?
 
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I was deep into a late-season SG-1 marathon when one of my favorite Podcast networks - TV Podcsst Industries - decided that they were in fact going to cover this show, and so i decided to pivot over and dive into it (in Color, because I don't like Black and White media).

I'm now through the first four episodes, and there's finally another Spider-Man-related project that's worth being excited about out there in the world.

I've surprisingly not actually seen all that much of Nicolas Cage's filmography, but he fits into the role of Ben Reilly like a hand into a glove, completely selling both the persona of the aloof, devil-may-care PI and the hero who retired in personal shame perfectly.

Of the various romantic relationships that have appeared in or been featured in non-Comics Spider-Man-related media over the years, nothing has really come close to the Peter/Mary Jane relationship as depicted in Spider-Man: The Animated Series... until now. The slow build up to Ben rescuing Cat Hardy after she intentionally throws herself out a window had me silently cheering and on the edge of my seat, and the onscreen chemistry between Nicolas Cage and Li Jun Li made me forget all about the fact that there's at least a 20-year age gap between the two characters.

I also really like the show's take on Silvermane. He's pretty openly a combination of Wilson Fisk/Kingpin and DC Comics' Carmine Falcone and Rupert Thorne, but Brendan Gleeson still makes him feel unique, and I like that the show pretty clearly established that there's a history between him and Ben without divulging exactly what said history is... at least not yet.
 
i still wonder if famous nick cage impersonator simon helberg aka howard hollowitz will return in the spotlight and do more nick cage impersonations now that nick cage has returned to the entertainment universe
 
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Even when I was a drinker three slugs and I was out.:guffaw:

That said, my friends and I used to play "Bill and Ted's excellent drinking game", where we would watch "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" and take a drink every time they said "dude", "excellent' or played air guitar. I very rarely made it to the end of that movie.:beer:
 
I just finished the full series, and Episodes 5 through 8 were just as good as Episodes 1 through 4 and took the story in directions that I wasn't entirely expecting.

Spider-Man's body generating webbing naturally was my favorite element of the character from the Sam Raimi Trilogy, and so it was fun to see it repeated here with Ben/The Spider, especially in conjunction with a riff on the Man-Spider story (the version of said story as told in Spider-Man TAS is one of my favorite arcs from that show). Tying the origins of Ben's mutation and powers to Sandman, Tombstone, and Megawatt was also reminiscent of the first iteration of the Ultimate Spider-Man comics' take on the Green Goblin.

As much as I was hoping that Ben and Cat could have a future together, her betrayal of him and eventual reconciliation with Flint Marko ended up reminding me of the way Felicia Hardy's storyline in Spider-Man TAS went (ending up with Morbius and helping him and Blade hunt down vampires), which was nice.

Cat killing Silvermane was also a nice narrative choice that fit the overall Noir aesthetic of the series.

Megawatt's double-cross of Silvermane, as well as his unhinged behavior evoked the Spider-Man TAS and Sam Raimi Trilogy versions of both the Norman and Harry Osborn Green Goblins for me, which was neat.

As I said when I talked about the first four episodes, I'm really happy to finally have a new Spider-Man-related project out there in the world that doesn't suck, and I'm really hoping that we get an announcement of a Season 2 sooner rather than later.
 
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Even when I was a drinker three slugs and I was out.:guffaw:

That said, my friends and I used to play "Bill and Ted's excellent drinking game", where we would watch "Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure" and take a drink every time they said "dude", "excellent' or played air guitar. I very rarely made it to the end of that movie.:beer:
If you read the fiction of the time, it's common for characters to maybe drink a pint of gin before going out for a "real" drink...
 
if there is a season 2 of spider noir

i wonder if the sony verison of spider noir will have to make up new names for any new characters joining spider noir since the spider man universe is still kinda owned by sony and they have like this 50 50 deal with disney even thought the spider man universe is part of marvel which is kinda owned by disney

its like how in spider noir the super hero name is the spider and his real name is i think ben riley and not peter parker or how silvermane i think is spelt differently and not a metahuman in spider noir or how felicia hardy is a club singer and i think has a different 1st name in spider noir
 
I'm still of the idea that Ben is not his original name. He has time to give up the liquor. The black and white thing is an issue though.
They said outright at one point that he changed his name after the war. I had been assuming we'd get a reveal at some point that his birth name was Peter Parker, and was a little shocked when we never did.
One thing I don't really get is why they made Li Jun Li's character Black Cat, she had absolutely no similarity to the comics character. I know they never actually called her that or Felicia Hardy, but the name makes it fairly clear that was their intention. With pretty much all the characters from the comics, I could see where the comics influences were, but I really didn't see any with Cat.
 
They said outright at one point that he changed his name after the war. I had been assuming we'd get a reveal at some point that his birth name was Peter Parker, and was a little shocked when we never did.
They can't confirm that his birth name was Peter Parker because Sony's licensing deal prohibits them from depicting Peter Parker drinking alcohol or swearing, so that inference is as close to a confirmation as we'll likely ever get.
 
I'm late to the party on this one but I really had a lot of fun watching this. I've been a fan of Cage since I first saw him in Birdy back in the 80s and this show proved he's still got a lot of talent. The show was well cast all around and I enjoyed the "elseworlds" take on the characters. I'm not familiar with this version of Spider-Man outside of the Spider-Verse movies, but I haven't seen a super-hero show or movie with this much heart and originality in a lot of years.

As for the colour vs Black and White thing, I began the series by switching between the two versions. The Black and White looked great, but it missed the boat on giving the show a retro-vibe because the photography was far too detailed. They should have filtered the image to give it an older look. I liked the technicolor version though. It gave this older style feel without taking me out of the story.
 
They can't confirm that his birth name was Peter Parker because Sony's licensing deal prohibits them from depicting Peter Parker drinking alcohol or swearing, so that inference is as close to a confirmation as we'll likely ever get.

They didn't confirm that his birth name was Peter Parker because it wasn't.

In the WWI flashbacks in Episode 5, one of the other soldiers explicitly calls him "Reilly", and, as noted by @JD, he didn't change his name until after the war.

My belief, based on what we were shown and told, is that Ben's legal birth name was Peter Reilly (the name that he enlisted under and the name that Ogden Faber and the other soldiers he both served with and rescued knew him by) and that he changed his first name to Ben after the war.
 
They can't confirm that his birth name was Peter Parker because Sony's licensing deal prohibits them from depicting Peter Parker drinking alcohol or swearing, so that inference is as close to a confirmation as we'll likely ever get.
Oh, I didn't know that. Does that apply to just the movies and TV shows or does that rule apply to the comics too? I've read quite a few comics at this point, I could sworn there were times they showed him drinking beer or champagne.
They didn't confirm that his birth name was Peter Parker because it wasn't.

In the WWI flashbacks in Episode 5, one of the other soldiers explicitly calls him "Reilly", and, as noted by @JD, he didn't change his name until after the war.

My belief, based on what we were shown and told, is that Ben's legal birth name was Peter Reilly (the name that he enlisted under and the name that Ogden Faber and the other soldiers he both served with and rescued knew him by) and that he changed his first name to Ben after the war.
Oh, OK I missed them referring to him as Reilly in the flashbacks.
 
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