Star Wars General Discussion Thread

[tomalak301]

I don't post in this forum very much, yet in the forums I do post in, there is some sort of general discussion thread. I figured why not here, especially since I'm trying to get back into Star Wars, I just reupped Disney+ for another year, and I started Andor earlier in the week and I'm through the first 6 episodes. I didn't really want to create a new thread for it, but I do want to post some thoughts as I watch.

So far, I think the thing that this series has going for it is they are doing a great job world building. I've always wanted to see the Star Wars universe without the Sith or the Jedi (One of the reasons I liked Solo) and it feels like Andor is providing that. I'm liking the format of 2 episodes of development and building and then the third episode provides a payoff. The recent episode I saw, The Eye, was gorgeous in terms of effects and quite fun because I got to know the characters in the previous two episodes. Right now I am liking Andor and I'm liking Vel (The same actress is actually in Ted Lasso which is cool) and the Ahdhani Heist was awesome. I also like seeing the political building too, with the imperial council, Mon Mothma, and Luthen's character. Looking forward to how the first season ends and then I guess the second season builds towards Rouge One.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

remember the old days of the star wars universe

back when they were only made by lucus arts

 

[fireproof78]

remember the old days of the star wars universe

back when they were only made by lucus arts

Lucas Arts was their video game division.

Lucas film did all the films and shows. The original interesting ideas of the Star Wars universe with"Splinter of a Mind's Eye," before Empire Strikes Back, plus the Holiday Special, then the rest of the OT.

Star wars feit a lot wilder back then.

 

[FredH]

remember the old days of the star wars universe

back when they were only made by lucus arts

They’re still only made by Lucasfilm (which Disney now owns). Unless you’re referring to tie-ins licensed by Lucasfilm to “subcontractors”, but those have existed since 1976 anyway.

 

[Ithekro]

There were also the first trilogy of Han Solo novels and the Lando novels before the Ewoks and Droids got spin offs (also comics, with a few audio dramas).

 

[FredH]

There were also the first trilogy of Han Solo novels and the Lando novels before the Ewoks and Droids got spin offs (also comics, with a few audio dramas).

Sure, published by Del Rey — one such “subcontractor”.

(I always found it fascinating that the earliest editions of Brain Daley’s Han Solo books said “From the Adventures of Luke Skywalker” in small print on the covers, even though Luke Skywalker wasn’t in them.)

 

[tomalak301]

Watched up to episode 10 of Andor last night. Luthen's speech (I wish we knew more about him, I feel like we barely know anything about him) could rival Demar's speech. That was a great speech about sacrifice. The prison break was awesome too.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

Lucas Arts was their video game division.

Lucas film did all the films and shows. The original interesting ideas of the Star Wars universe with"Splinter of a Mind's Eye," before Empire Strikes Back, plus the Holiday Special, then the rest of the OT.

Star wars feit a lot wilder back then.

the techs that lucas films used back in the old days of the star wars orignal trilogy was innovated and revolutionary at the time and it was also the same when they made the star wars prequel trilogy

 

[fireproof78]

the techs that lucas films used back in the old days of the star wars orignal trilogy was innovated and revolutionary at the time and it was also the same when they made the star wars prequel trilogy

That was always Lucas' goal was to push the technology.

 

[tomalak301]

I'm hoping Season 2 gets good soon because 2 episodes in and I feel like Andor is spreading itself a little too thin. There are 4 different plotlines happening and none of them were particularly interesting (Even though the one with the Ghormans was not very much in episode 2, but it was pretty good in episode 1). Also, Rock Paper Scissors? Like I said, I watched the season 1 finale and was enthrallwed by what was happening. One year later and I'm just hoping the show finds itself again.

 

[camdudetenger2018]

That was always Lucas' goal was to push the technology.

yup

 

[Ithekro]

Andor is generally setup for three episode arcs. So either the plots are working towards the third episode of the arc, or the plot will be different/better the next arc. Season two was doing time skips between arcs (about a year) to get from the end of the First season to Rogue One by the end of the show.

 

[Tuskin38]

I'm hoping Season 2 gets good soon because 2 episodes in

the first 3 episodes are generally considered the slowest of Season 2.

 

[tomalak301]

the first 3 episodes are generally considered the slowest of Season 2.

I finished the series today. I think I can safely say that the first three episodes were not nearly as great as what came after. I think I could have done entirely without the wedding scene, and there were some powerful moments, but it was nowhere near what came after.

What came after was really great though, especially the Ghorman arc. I was following some of the reviews on IMDB, and the Ghorman Massacre episode was considered the best episode of the series, but I think the episode that came after was better. You can have big event episodes but usually the episode that comes after is a bit of a downgrade. I loved that episode though and I loved Mon's speech revealing Palpatine. It was powerful and the extraction scene was really well done.

Overall, I liked the series but I wonder if the jumping a year after every three episodes kind of hurt it some. I think the best example of this was Cinta's death. I kind of rolled my eyes at how predictably telegraphed it was and I wish we had gotten more with it. I also thought Season 1 was much more cohesive and had a lot more going for it. As for the final episodes, I really enjoyed Luthan and Kleya's origin story, and I know they were setting up Rouge One but I was surprised the finale really was moving the chess pieces around. It was very much subdued for a series finale. I'm glad I watched it, and I'm thinking if last year was the year of catching up with Marvel, this year might be the year I catch up with Star Wars. I'm even thinking about giving The Acolyte a go.

 

[Aragorn]

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What would happen if everyone shared what they knew in A New Hope.

 

[Tuskin38]

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[TedShatner10]

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Got Ninja'd again.

In Andor the "Imperial Crest" gets used badly (like unnecessarily stamped on the sides of Army/Stormtrooper Corp repulsor troop craft and other stuff), used with more restraint around the prison complex (or on gold bars), and used best in that now infamous ISB conference room (when Krennic was chewing out that young ISB officer).

You also must take into account the now historical era the OT was produced in, where logos and branding was more sparingly used in comparison to the insane branding we got everywhere since maybe the turn of the 2000s.

Take 1983's Blade Runner; the Tyrell Corporation is the most wealthy and powerful organisation in that setting, with its own branding and logo (but it's almost not seen).

The Tyrell Corporation (like Empire in the OT) does not project its brand logo everywhere, but conveys its power and presence through its twin ziggurat headquarters looming over the Los Angeles skyline ominously.

Then we get the Blade Runner 2049 sequel and while still more restrained than Disney SW, you sense the branding sigil and colour scheme of the Wallace Corporation more than did with Tyrell...

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The Imperial crest being a bit overused in Disney productions is not offensively bad but certainly more of a sign the era they were made in (and an unintended influence of the Clone Wars).

 

[Tuskin38]

The EU did this as well, the games/comics had the symbol all over the place.

On the other side of the Civil War, some games did this for Rebel controlled Lambda Shuttles, but I imagine that was for gameplay reasons so you could tell it apart from an Imperial one.

 

[fireproof78]

It's literally in the center of the Senate.

But, I'm not bothered by branding

 

[Sketcher]

Kinda feel like plastering your symbol everywhere was a given for a fascist regime.