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Spider-Man: Homecoming' anticipation thread

Some of the set reports describe her dressing nerdy, which is closer to the Ultimate universe version. It could also fit into the John Hughes feel they're going for with the plain looking female friend who is one makeover from being stunning.
 
Some of the set reports describe her dressing nerdy, which is closer to the Ultimate universe version. It could also fit into the John Hughes feel they're going for with the plain looking female friend who is one makeover from being stunning.
Here are some photos from tthe set so far.

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I could definitely see the extreme makeover ending happening.
 
It would be interesting if she figures out his identity pretty quickly. She was basically his best friend and only confidant in the early issues.
 
Would that be the early issues of the Ultimate version? She was a running blind date gag in the Lee/Ditko run...she wasn't revealed on-panel until Amazing Spider-Man #42.
 
For something that apparently was intended to be a surprise (revealed towards the end of the movie) that even the scooper didn't put in the headline, it's somewhat frustrating how thoroughly spoiled this has become...
 
Well, we've never had a redheaded Jimmy Olsen in live action, except in black and white. Nor have we ever had a blond Barry Allen. Odd how female characters' hair colors are considered more non-negotiable than male characters'. (Although we've had two redheaded Lois Lanes, Noel Neill and Amy Adams.)

Also, it seems that most redheaded women in comic-book movies are played by actresses who aren't natural redheads -- Kirsten Dunst and Scarlett Johansson are blonde, Famke Janssen is brunette, etc. And as a result, their hair is a different shade of red in every movie, which is kind of annoying. (And then we had the irony of Spider-Man 3 featuring a natural blonde playing Mary Jane and a natural redhead playing Gwen Stacy.)

Alicia Masters in the Tim Story FF movies is another example of a character who is redheaded in the comics being played by a black woman onscreen.
 
A little surprised to hear she might be Mary Jane, only because most of the stuff I'd read seemed to assuming she'd be Michele Gonzales.
It will be weird having a non redhead MJ, but I'm not bothered by it.
I was also thinking if she was Michele Gonzales, that it would have been kind of fun to have a different love interest in each movie series.
 
I actually think it's a good idea to cast a non-Caucasian, non-red head as MJ. For one, people should understand that there's a difference between a character having a distinguishing characteristic and a defining characteristic. MJ's looks never defined her character and if they did then that's a very shallow character and not worth being faithful too.

Also, if one were of a somewhat cynical mindset, it could be seen as a consolation prize for those that were hoping that the MCU Spider-Man would be Miles Morales and not Peter Parker. I'm not saying that was the thinking, but in a broader context, it has been noted that the MCU is already way too white so some diversity is certainly welcome.
 
I actually think it's a good idea to cast a non-Caucasian, non-red head as MJ. For one, people should understand that there's a difference between a character having a distinguishing characteristic and a defining characteristic. MJ's looks never defined her character and if they did then that's a very shallow character and not worth being faithful too.

Also, if one were of a somewhat cynical mindset, it could be seen as a consolation prize for those that were hoping that the MCU Spider-Man would be Miles Morales and not Peter Parker. I'm not saying that was the thinking, but in a broader context, it has been noted that the MCU is already way too white so some diversity is certainly welcome.
It probably is to some degree. But Marvel Studios has been willing to change the ethnicities of supporting characters before. Thor changed Heimdall into Idris Elba despite Asgardians being white in the comics. This even became a controversy before the movie came out with some small groups who don't deserve to be mentioned.

Although I do think we'll get Miles in the MCU at some point. He's the only major hero to survive the ending of the Ultimate Universe and he's getting a lot of toys made of him. So I think that Marvel is still wanting to do something bigger with the character. They just might need to build on his public image some since Peter is known to be Spider-Man even by non-fans. I do think that the character does need be a legacy character. Peter's death, Miles' guilt over failing to help him and wanting to live up his legacy is a major part of Miles' character. Plus I'd really love to see the Death of Spider-Man storyline carried out on screen. Maybe tweak it so Miles and Peter actually know each other and possibly work together briefly. Get something similar to Spider-Men because when they meet Peter and Miles play off each other well. Then Peter ends up fighting a villain and for whatever reason Miles isn't able to get there in time before he dies. Miles is then driven to continue his legacy and push himself to be stronger so he doesn't fail anyone else again. It would fit in the core concept of Spider-Man being a person who wants to do good and has enough morals to feel guilty when he isn't good enough.
 
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After seeing that redhead Zendaya pic, I'm fine with her as MJ. Man, though... her former 'Shake It Up' co-star Bella Thorne (who I previously figured would've been a shoo-in for the role) must be fuming...
 
Zen who?

I'm fine with the casting, I'm sure they know what they're doing. But am I alone in having never heard of her? Is it an American thing?

30.8 million followers on Instagram. Jesus.


* and "only" 6.8 million on Twitter. A fairly random point, but I never get when certain celebs have such a massive discord like that between the two. I mean I get some are more popular than others but that's a big gap, when you'd think most of whoever's fans would probably use both. Most young people would have Instagram and Twitter on their phones.
 
Zen who?

I'm fine with the casting, I'm sure they know what they're doing. But am I alone in having never heard of her? Is it an American thing?

30.8 million followers on Instagram. Jesus.


* and "only" 6.8 million on Twitter. A fairly random point, but I never get when certain celebs have such a massive discord like that between the two. I mean I get some are more popular than others but that's a big gap, when you'd think most of whoever's fans would probably use both. Most young people would have Instagram and Twitter on their phones.
She's a big star on the Disney Channel shows, before getting into music. The same way Vanessa Hudgens, Miley Cyrus and Selena Gomez had their starts on Disney.
 
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Zendaya Coleman is one of the latest starlets to roll off the Disney Channel assembly line. (The same one that produced Miley Cyrus, Selena Gomez and Demi Levato among others...) Her and the aforementioned Bella Thorne starred in Shake It Up, a 2010-2013 series about a pair of teen fangirls who win a role on a Chicago teen dance pop show. As usual, Disney tries to present these girls as acting/singing/dancing triple threats, and Zendaya produced a solo album in 2013 (her only one to date, with only one single - Replay - that barely cracked the Top 40). She's currently starring in her second Disney Channel series, K.C. Undercover, as a teen math genius following in her parents' footsteps as an undercover spy.

She was also second place finisher in Season 16 of Dancing with the Stars (the US version of Strictly Come Dancing).
 
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I actually think it's a good idea to cast a non-Caucasian, non-red head as MJ. For one, people should understand that there's a difference between a character having a distinguishing characteristic and a defining characteristic. MJ's looks never defined her character and if they did then that's a very shallow character and not worth being faithful too.

Non-caucasian is fine but not a redhead? Come on, of course it's the defining characteristic of Mary Jane's appearance.
 
Lana Lang was a redhead too...but no one seemed to mind that she wasn't one in Man of Steel. (Maybe some mild complaining when it happened in Smallville. ;) )

No to mention, I can't recall a single peep when Matt Murdock didn't have red hair in the Netflix series.
 
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