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There can be benefits to using an obscure character. It's basically a blank slate that you can do whatever you want with and not have to worry about prior continuity. After all, most of the audience for a feature film won't be comics readers anyway, since a successful comic has maybe on the order of 10,000 readers and a successful big-budget movie can have an audience a thousand times that size. So it won't matter if the character is well-known in comics or not. All that matters is whether its potential can be developed into an effective movie. A number of comics characters have been more prominent in adaptations than in the originals, e.g. Peggy Carter, William Stryker, Felicity Smoak, Cisco Ramon, etc.
Just reading that wiki article he seems to be a very easily adapted character to bring to film. They'll need to make up most of the plot from wholecloth, but the basic idea of a minor villain who decides to become a hero after being granted power and a nanotech suit he collects and completes over the course of the film gives you a solid plot skeleton to work off of straight away.
 
Nice teaser. I like the look of it, and the title and scene at end hint at some interesting possibilities.
 
I like the design/look of it, but man that frame-rate is gonna be hard to get used to. I get that it's an aesthetic choice, but it pulls me out into the "Is there something wrong with the disc?" mode.
 
I like the design/look of it, but man that frame-rate is gonna be hard to get used to. I get that it's an aesthetic choice, but it pulls me out into the "Is there something wrong with the disc?" mode.

I gather anime does that a lot lately, doing 3D animation with a 2D frame rate. (At least, someone said so in the thread about the Batman Ninja anime.) I'm surprised to see it in an American film. But I saw a comment elsewhere from somebody who loved it because they were reminded of Laika's stop-motion films.
 
That trailer was really weird. I don't like the stop motion looking style, its really off putting. But, since I hate Miles Morales anyway, its not like I'll ever have to see it.
 
I like the look of the trailer. I think it's really going to come down to tone before I decide to see it, so I'll wait for a full trailer. The framerate is interesting, but it reminds me a lot of the motion comics that Marvel has done in the past and I certainly wouldn't go to the theaters to see one of those (that being said, the quality is clearly great - look at the reflections on that taxi cab).
 
It's a bit off-putting to me that the scenery looks like live-action until the characters show up. I like my cartoons to look like artwork, not photography.

Although there's an interesting moment at one point where the image briefly flashes into 2-D, comics-style artwork a couple of times.
 
The framerate doesn't bother me when it comes to general body movements, especially with the mask on, but seeing his face stutter like a cheap web animation is definitely weird. That, and the huge Tangled/Frozen-style eyes. I guess CG animation is too lifelike to use realistic facial dimensions without an Uncanny Valley effect? Or maybe they're targeting a younger audience than the live-action films.

Obvious question: are we nearing the point of "too many Spider-Men"?

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The framerate doesn't bother me when it comes to general body movements, especially with the mask on, but seeing his face stutter like a cheap web animation is definitely weird.

It's a normal frame rate for 2D or stop-motion animation -- shooting "on twos," changing the image every second frame for 12 fps, or "on threes" for 8 fps, because it's less time-consuming and expensive than trying to animate every single frame, and human persistence of vision is about 1/8 of a second so 8fps is enough to create the illusion of motion. The thing is, 3D computer animation is usually animated "on ones," giving a much smoother and more naturalistic motion. So seeing 3D animation done at a lower frame rate isn't something we're used to.

As it happened, back in the '90s when animated shows and movies were starting to integrate 3D-animated vehicles and backgrounds the like into cartoons with 2D-animated characters, I found the CG items discordant because their animation was too smooth. I wished they would do them on twos like the hand-drawn characters/elements.


That, and the huge Tangled/Frozen-style eyes. I guess CG animation is too lifelike to use realistic facial dimensions without an Uncanny Valley effect?

No, it's an artistic choice. I mean, if you want realistic-looking human characters, you can just do live action. The whole point of doing a film in animation is to do something stylized and caricatured.


Obvious question: are we nearing the point of "too many Spider-Men"?

No more than we have "too many Flashes" (Barry, Wally, Bart, Jesse, Thawne, etc.) or "too many Green Lanterns." It's been a tradition for superheroes to spawn large families of spinoff characters ever since Otto Binder created the Marvel Family for Captain Marvel (the character now called Shazam) in the early 1940s -- something Binder then went on to do for Superman in the '50s. And how many Robins, Batgirls, Batwomen, and other Batman Family members have there been by now?

Indeed, Spider-Man is a lot like Batman in a certain way. They're both characters who nominally operate as loners, but who, due to their popularity with audiences, have been systematically teamed up and crossed over and spun off so many times that they've become the most gregarious heroes in their respective universes. (See also Wolverine. Why is it always the loners?)
 
Silver and Black confirmed to shoot next year in Atlanta. Out of all of the planned Sony spin-offs, somehow this is the one I most look forward to.
 
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