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So Worf can ear a sash, Troi can wear a catsuit but Ro....

I actually prefer meta-answers as opposed to hypothesizing and speculation. I can do that myself.

Although when there is an in-universe reason provided in a source, even novels, comics, etc. I do like to hear those.

I remember one time I asked a question in a thread and specified, "If anybody really KNOWS. . ." and still got a bunch of guesses.
 
I dunno about that. The way he spoke in "Who Watches the Watchers?" was pretty arrogant. Instead of focusing on the fact that Federation interference inadvertently reintroduced beliefs that the Mintakans themselves chose to discard--focusing on the PARTICULAR SITUATION, which I agree was a problem--he decided to make a blanket comment about religion itself...the very concept, not just the one instance where Federation interference reversed a choice made by the Mintakans. That's what I find offensive.

He's a scientist, it wouldn't make much sense for him to be overly religious. Hence the whole "scientists can't believe in unprovable concepts like God" stuff. He does have some sort of slightly religious talk later in the series, which is likely because he's become a tad more open-minded when witnessing Godlike powers from Q.
 
Believe it or not, being religious does NOT have to detract from the rigors of one's scientific processes. Don't let the stuff you've heard from the young-earth crowd fool you...it is quite possible to believe fully in science and follow proper procedure, and hold sincere religious beliefs at the same time. The idea that science and faith are enemies is a classic example of the faulty dilemma.

And exactly the sort of attitude that leads towards undue prejudice, as perhaps it did in Picard.
 
I actually prefer meta-answers as opposed to hypothesizing and speculation. I can do that myself.

Although when there is an in-universe reason provided in a source, even novels, comics, etc. I do like to hear those.

I remember one time I asked a question in a thread and specified, "If anybody really KNOWS. . ." and still got a bunch of guesses.

The problem is that meta-answers can solve any question we have.

Any, every, and all questions one would have about the series can be answered with "The creators wanted that way."

Sorry, that's no fun. ;)
 
Believe it or not, being religious does NOT have to detract from the rigors of one's scientific processes.

Thank you.

There are plenty of moderates on both sides of the issue, problem is it's the polarized wackos that get the press time not the fellow who attends church and church activities during his off times while working at the Stem Cell Research Center as a DNA-Tweeker (or whatever people do at the Stem Cell Research Center I don't know. :guffaw:)
 
You all missed the episode, rarely shown for obvious reasons, where Riker challenges Worf's haircut shown in my avatar. It's the real reason why Troi dumped Riker.
 
Ro wore an earring that was a religious symbol...and the Federation's "enlightened" society has no room for religious expression. The fact that she was a nonconformist, as it turned out, was probably what forced Riker to concede in the end that it was OK. If it had become clear it really WAS religious grounds...you can bet there would've been zero respect of that whatsoever on the Enterprise.

(There might be other more tolerant ships, possibly...but Picard's remarks about belief and religion make me think he wouldn't cut any slack.)

You must have missed Rightful Heir - when Worf had a crisis of faith Picard let him go on a jaunt to a Klingon monastery to sort out his issues.
 
Even messageboards should have standards.

Sorry I offended you. If you go around this bulletin board and ferret out all the instances of the usage of the words "boob" and "camel toe" you'll be an old woman by the time you're through.
 
She probably was given permission to wear it right after that 1st episode, once she'd made comment about it to Picard. That probably stuck in Riker's craw. LOL

I think there's a scene at the end of the episode where she puts the earring in again. I tend to think that permission to wear uniform deviations is Picard's to give not Riker's. Until Picard said different it was Riker's job to uphold the uniform code. Although I agree he could probably have told her to get rid of it in a less pissy manner.

I was about to swoop in and say the same thing. It really boils down to earning it. Worf can wear a sash because he earned it in some way. (Picard could've known Worf prior to his assignment on Enterprise) Troi can wear catsuits because Picard trusts her. (And likes looking at her ass) Crusher can wear a smock over her uniform because Picard killed her husband. At the end of the episode, Ro had earned it.

I remember reading somewhere that meta explanations for Nog's headwrap and Ro's headband are that the headwrap hides the join in the Ferengi makeup, and Ro's headband hides a severe haircut Michelle Forbes had before filming.

I think it was that Aron Eisenberg (Nog) had no backing in his head piece under the headwrap so that they could slip a small cooling unit of some sort up in there. Max Grodenchik's (Rom) head piece was made the same way.

Aaron McGuire
 
Troi needed to look less informal in her role of counselor.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if my counselor wore a uniform like my own...not a bunny suit with boobs-a-poppin' and a camel toe.

Speak for yourself. :p

Same here. Gimme all the boobs-a-poppin there is.

And BOOO! to Jelicho.
We're sci-fi fans, we supposed to enjoy looking at T&A. :bolian:

And yea, Riker was just being a douche' bag.
 
For the record, in "Where Silence Has Lease" (Season 2) Picard responds to a question about death from Nagilum (Posing as Data) He indicates, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what his beliefs are. He states that, given the complexity & balance of the universe, he believes neither staunch Athiesm, nor the specific tenets of known religions adequately defines life. He admits to believing that there is likely a reality beyond the known living reality. That folks, is a faith based belief

Now does that sound like someone who'd be intolerant of others' beliefs? Just because he expressed a bit of disdain toward the notion that they'd disrupted the developmental flow of a civilization, (Who Watches The Watchers?) & were now being confronted with the possibility of having to force them backward, in their own development, & impose a faith based system upon them, doesn't mean he is a proponent of the eradication of all faith based ideology. I think it's rather inaccurate to suggest that Picard is that closed minded

& I am an Athiest. I, of all people, would like to think Picard is one too, but he's not. So be it. It's a tv show
 
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For the record, in "Where Silence Has Lease" (Season 2) Picard responds to a question about death from Nagilum (Posing as Data) He indicates, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what his beliefs are. He states that, given the complexity & balance of the universe, he believes neither staunch Athiesm, nor the specific tenets of known religions adequately defines life. He admits to believing that there is likely a reality beyond the known living reality. That folks, is a faith based belief


He's an actor using a script he learned for a television entertainment show. He's not Marcel Proust, you know, and neither were the scriptwriters.
 
For the record, in "Where Silence Has Lease" (Season 2) Picard responds to a question about death from Nagilum (Posing as Data) He indicates, beyond a shadow of a doubt, what his beliefs are. He states that, given the complexity & balance of the universe, he believes neither staunch Athiesm, nor the specific tenets of known religions adequately defines life. He admits to believing that there is likely a reality beyond the known living reality. That folks, is a faith based belief


He's an actor using a script he learned for a television entertainment show. He's not Marcel Proust, you know, and neither were the scriptwriters.
I'm not talking about the actor or writers. I'm talking about the character. Folks want to act like Picard is an anti-religious character, just because their religion isn't represented on a show about the future & but he isn't
 
Why must a show set in the future represent the present? Why bother setting it in the future if that's the case?
 
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