So Worf can ear a sash, Troi can wear a catsuit but Ro....

[SilentP]

She was wearing it as a personal statement about her religion to other Bajorans. Does Starfleet have the right to say that only wearing it one side is acceptable, since that's the orthodox position of her people?

Doesn't sound very Starfleet to me, especially if you keep in mind what Picard said once, think it was in 'Lower Decks' to Ensign Sito(?) about Starfleet being dedicated to search for the truth, whether the scientific, the historical or personal truth. If Ro was forced to wear the ring in a manner against her beliefs, it would smack of hypocrisy on Starfleet's part, if she's going to wear it at all.

 

[Mojochi]

Sure, Riker was likely just being a jerk, as he'd made it clear he had nothing but contempt for Ro, but it could also be a simple uniform code prohibiting jewelry. Neither Worf's nor Troi's form of dress incorporated jewelry. Worf likely had his sash approved at some point, & Troi's status as not being a command, or operations officer might have gotten her some leeway, with her commander

Certain forms of uniform alteration have been approved at other times. Ro's headband & Nog's skull wrap come to mind

You'll notice that's she's wearing the earring. She probably was given permission to wear it right after that 1st episode, once she'd made comment about it to Picard. That probably stuck in Riker's craw. LOL

As for Troi. I'd think she got away with her more casual suit, because it was not all that dissimilar to a regular uniform.

Until they switched it to the purple thing, but I figure it really is at the commander's discretion.

She often wore the teal dress on occasion too, but I have no recollection of ever seeing it on the bridge

 

[Therin of Andor]

No no no, you all have it wrong. Ro insisted on wearing her earring on the wrong ear so she didn't get the "cultural sensitivity" pass that Worf got. If she had just worn it on the correct side, like every other Bajoran, it would have been fine.

Bajorans wear their earring on that side to stay in touch with their Pagh. Ro was in touch with her Magh.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Certain forms of uniform alteration have been approved at other times. Ro's headband & Nog's skull wrap come to mind

Spock's Vulcan black collar in TMP, Ilia's Deltan collar on her leisure robe in TMP (Saavik's didn't have one), beads and feathers in the hair of Amerind crewmembers in TMP, the Bickleys' half capes in the DC Comics TNG mini-series...

 

[Anwar]

Actually, we saw Troi wearing that blue dress on the bridge at the end of "Yesterday's Enterprise".

 

[Trekker4747]

Actually, we saw Troi wearing that blue dress on the bridge at the end of "Yesterday's Enterprise".

I'm sure she wore it on the bridge a few other times too. I assume it was just to go along with her "more civilian role" on the ship. For her job she probably need to look as comforting as possible and not like a superior, bridge, officer. The later might intimidate her patients.

It was probably simply easier for her to wear those clothes, even on the bridge, rather than change in and out of them between appointments and bridge duty.

Though, at times, I think it was a bit counter productive. Like when she counseling Barclay in his introductory episode and she's sitting there in that blue-green dress that's slit up to her neck, her boobs all pushed up and clevage hanging out, she turns down the lights, tells Barclay to close his eyes, she starts talking in a soothing voice and sits down right next to him.

She acts surprised when Bac busts a nut right there and bolts out of the room.

Hell, I came just watching that scene as a teen.

 

[Anwar]

And somehow she's shocked that Barclay modeled the scantily clad "Empathy Goddess" after her...

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

No no no, you all have it wrong. Ro insisted on wearing her earring on the wrong ear so she didn't get the "cultural sensitivity" pass that Worf got. If she had just worn it on the correct side, like every other Bajoran, it would have been fine.

I bet you the opposite would've happened: there would've been NO chance of concession if she wore it in the traditional way.

Why? Simple. Worf didn't wear his sash for religious reasons--just traditional ones. Same thing for the Ferengi headwrap (at least, no religious reason was ever stated).

Ro wore an earring that was a religious symbol...and the Federation's "enlightened" society has no room for religious expression. The fact that she was a nonconformist, as it turned out, was probably what forced Riker to concede in the end that it was OK. If it had become clear it really WAS religious grounds...you can bet there would've been zero respect of that whatsoever on the Enterprise.

(There might be other more tolerant ships, possibly...but Picard's remarks about belief and religion make me think he wouldn't cut any slack.)

 

[Anwar]

Picard expressed appreciation and admiration for Bajoran culture. I doubt he'd hold it against them for being religious. Heck, a lot of his lines in "Tapestry" made it seem like he had some religious beliefs.

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

I dunno about that. The way he spoke in "Who Watches the Watchers?" was pretty arrogant. Instead of focusing on the fact that Federation interference inadvertently reintroduced beliefs that the Mintakans themselves chose to discard--focusing on the PARTICULAR SITUATION, which I agree was a problem--he decided to make a blanket comment about religion itself...the very concept, not just the one instance where Federation interference reversed a choice made by the Mintakans. That's what I find offensive.

 

[nx1701g]

I had always interpreted it that they were hard on Ro and wouldn't let her wear the earring because of her history. The disaster she was involved with and caused was supposed to have been a major incident - or at least that was what it was made out to be. I think that was why they denied her request more than anything. However, Sito Jaxa didn't wear the earring either though...

 

[WillsBabe]

She probably was given permission to wear it right after that 1st episode, once she'd made comment about it to Picard. That probably stuck in Riker's craw. LOL

I think there's a scene at the end of the episode where she puts the earring in again. I tend to think that permission to wear uniform deviations is Picard's to give not Riker's. Until Picard said different it was Riker's job to uphold the uniform code. Although I agree he could probably have told her to get rid of it in a less pissy manner.

I remember reading somewhere that meta explanations for Nog's headwrap and Ro's headband are that the headwrap hides the join in the Ferengi makeup, and Ro's headband hides a severe haircut Michelle Forbes had before filming.

On the subject of Troi's clothes, they always strike me as uniform deviations, not civilian clothing.

 

[Trekker4747]

I remember reading somewhere that meta explanations for Nog's headwrap and Ro's headband are that the headwrap hides the join in the Ferengi makeup, and Ro's headband hides a severe haircut Michelle Forbes had before filming.

META-ANSWER!!!!

 

[Deckerd]

Troi needed to look less informal in her role of counselor.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if my counselor wore a uniform like my own...not a bunny suit with boobs-a-poppin' and a camel toe.

Is that really necessary? I mean what does it add to the conversation except what it reaveals about you?

 

[GeneHunt]

Troi needed to look less informal in her role of counselor.

I would feel a lot more comfortable if my counselor wore a uniform like my own...not a bunny suit with boobs-a-poppin' and a camel toe.

Is that really necessary? I mean what does it add to the conversation except what it reaveals about you?

Dont be a feminazi about it, its a valid point...

 

[Deckerd]

I think it's disgusting and brings nothing to the conversation.

 

[GeneHunt]

I think it's disgusting and brings nothing to the conversation.

So if you went to see a male councellor and he had his chest hanging out and was wearing something that left nothing to the imagination about his crotch you wouldnt find it uncomfortable and rather he was in proper uniform?

 

[Deckerd]

I would probably not be impressed but I'd like to think I could express that discomfort in language that didn't make me sound like a misandristic moron.

 

[GeneHunt]

I would probably not be impressed but I'd like to think I could express that discomfort in language that didn't make me sound like a misandristic moron.

He's just saying in a casual manner, this is a message board not an essay.

 

[Deckerd]

Even messageboards should have standards.