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Snowpiercer (TV series)

Yup, I was thinking the same. It feels like everyone expects to disembark in a fully-established settlement with all of the works and trappings they had before the freeze.

It'll be a mess no matter what.
 
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Yup, I was thinking the same. It feels like everyone expects to disembark in a fully established settlement with all of the works and trappings they had before the freeze.

It'll be a mees no matter what.
The passengers do think that but I can't figure out how Leyton and the team seem to have fooled themselves. Actually Leyton I get cause he seems pretty dumb and Alex is a kid but the rest should know better.
 
I worry the series is running out of steam and it's just going to regurgitate the same themes again now with Melanie taking over the train.
 
Good final episode although how it took them so long to figure out the compromise really annoyed me.

Letting Wilford live will definitely come back on them and fk knows where they are gonna grow anything in New Eden. Did genuinely think wow they might kill half the train at the end there and its not often I am left in that kind of suspense with TV.

Also gotta say the combination of Connolly and Blanchard has really blown me away. There scenes really break my heart and I really am fooled into thinking it's actually her daughter at times.

More great Roche being Roche and LJ being LJ too.
 
The solution was elegant. Perhaps too elegant. But I accept as it is because one thing was very clear: Everyone was tired of fighting. Except Wilford (and perhaps LJ because she's a sadist).

Maybe the constant changing of alliances and agreements so quickly and with ease to the ultimate conclusion was a little too easy, but again, I accept it. Because it's been such a rough road in the three seasons that these characters deserve some happiness, some joy, some hope for a better future.

Regardless of the ease of how things worked out, I love the decision to give everyone a choice. To travel to the dangerous hope of New Eden or keep spinning around the globe with the different danger of Snowpiercer falling apart.

I was worried the episode would end on a cliffhanger with the viewers left in the dark about New Eden, but I was greatly relieved to see that their faith was rewarded, to see green, to feel the warm embrace of the sun, to begin a new life. A lovely juxtaposition of the dire conclusion of Battlestar Galactica's "Revelations" upon finding Earth (even if that's where I consider when the show actually ended because I'm sometimes a nihilist...and the following episodes sucked).

As for who went where, most of it wasn't a surprise, including Bess' last second decision to switch sides to be with Audrey, for love, even if she's sick of Snowpiercer. The only real surprise were Mrs. Hardwood and Boki (the monster revealed!...even if it didn't go anywhere...yet) going to New Eden. I'll be curious to see how that plays out and maybe Boki's humanity can be restored.

The only thing I'm disappointed about is the sudden and abrupt killing off of LJ. Yes, of course, it was the perfect way for her to die thematically, but I really hoped to see more of her development. I guess Annalise Basso was ready to move on and that's fair.

While I wouldn't say I'm disappointed Wilford was exiled away on Melanie's train scaler, I am a little surprised they went with the more difficult solution instead of just sticking him inside a Drawer (which I'm sure Roche would've been all for). Either way, it allows Sean Bean to go pursue other projects but leave the door to return when ready...because of course there will be more Wilford.

As for the coda...I wish it wasn't there. I wanted the episode end on the very happy note.

I saw this news today and I'm very happy! More Clark Gregg is always a good thing!

Also gotta say the combination of Connolly and Blanchard has really blown me away. There scenes really break my heart and I really am fooled into thinking it's actually her daughter at times.
Yes, their chemistry has always been very good. I'm sorry they'll be separated again next season but maybe not for too long?

More great Roche being Roche and LJ being LJ too.
I loved how Roche unequivocally gave Carly the decision and went with her no matter what. Of course she wanted to get the fuck off!
 
I was pretty happy with how things worked out.
The whole time they were getting ready to fight, I kept thinking why don't they just split to train so both groups can do what they want, so I was relieved when they did exactly that.
Sending Wilford off in the train scaler was a nice way to take Wilford off the board, but still leave it open for him to show back up.
I was really happy that Zara and Audrey both ended up siding against Wilford. Especially with Audrey, I liked what they did with her the last few episode, and I was happy they didn't undo all of that and just have her go back to him. Her refusing to sing for him was a great moment for her.
The split went pretty much the way I expected.
I was also happy that New Eden actually worked out for them. I bet the actors probably enjoyed actually getting to film outside for once, and getting out of the dark, cramped train sets.
My first thought with the missile at the end is Wilford, but I forgot about Clark Gregg, so now I'm wondering if maybe it was set off by a new group that his character is going to be a part of.
 
YAY! I love Clark!

Regardless of the ease of how things worked out, I love the decision to give everyone a choice.
Ditto! I felt like - FINALLY! - Layton and Melanie learned their lessons about being "saviors". Ya gotta trust people.

The only thing I'm disappointed about is the sudden and abrupt killing off of LJ. Yes, of course, it was the perfect way for her to die thematically, but I really hoped to see more of her development.
I disagree. I think the character had all the development she was going to get.

My first thought with the missile at the end is Wilford, but I forgot about Clark Gregg, so now I'm wondering if maybe it was set off by a new group that his character is going to be a part of.
Hubby and I think perhaps some leftover military outpost somewhere. Given finding Asha, the idea that there are other people left alive here and there is no longer "impossible".
 
I forgot about LJ's death in when I wrote my other post.
Her choking on her father's eye was an appropriate way to kill her, but the way it happened was just so random, and disconnected from everything that it felt kind of weird.
 
I disagree. I think the character had all the development she was going to get.
In the old world of things, perhaps. But things are changing drastically and I would've been curious to see how she may have developed in that world.

Her choking on her father's eye was an appropriate way to kill her, but the way it happened was just so random, and disconnected from everything that it felt kind of weird.
That's what makes her death so perfect: It's everything she fought so hard against. She desperately wanted to be important, to be desired, to be in control. To have her die off randomly, accidentally, and completely unseen goes against all of that.
 
In the old world of things, perhaps. But things are changing drastically and I would've been curious to see how she may have developed in that world.


That's what makes her death so perfect: It's everything she fought so hard against. She desperately wanted to be important, to be desired, to be in control. To have her die off randomly, accidentally, and completely unseen goes against all of that.
Yeah, it does work a lot better looking at it that way.
 
In potentially bad long-term news for Snowpiercer, Variety reports that Warner Bros. Discovery is no longer producing new scripted shows for TNT and TBS. Variety specifically mentions Snowpiercer, saying there's no direct news for the show and that "it is apparently status quo for returning series."

Which probably means the fourth season will be its last.
 
I'm a little surprised to hear that, since for a while at least, their whole deal was supposed to be scripted dramas on TNT and comedies on TBS. I wonder if they'll just be doing nothing but reality shows, or just not doing any originals at all?
I just hope if this is the end of Snowpiercer, they go in knowing that, so we can get a real ending. The end of Season 3 did feel like a good place to start tying things up, so it shouldn't be too hard to make 4 the last season, if they need to.
 
I'm a little surprised to hear that, since for a while at least, their whole deal was supposed to be scripted dramas on TNT and comedies on TBS. I wonder if they'll just be doing nothing but reality shows, or just not doing any originals at all?
I just hope if this is the end of Snowpiercer, they go in knowing that, so we can get a real ending. The end of Season 3 did feel like a good place to start tying things up, so it shouldn't be too hard to make 4 the last season, if they need to.
Snowpiercer seems popular enough for a final season on HBO max if need be...
 
Eh, I looked it up... it's nowhere near as popular as I thought. S1 did great but that was during lockdown. It's been sliding ever since... Time for a final season after the next one to make sure there is an ending before it gets cancelled.

Comparing to other TNT genre shows:
The Last Ship finished with 1.15 million viewers
Falling Skies finished with 2.39 million viewers despite being absolutely awful
Snowpiercer is at 0.63 now.

Uh oh.
 
Wow, that's a shock, I thought it was really popular. Guess it must just be one with a small, but passionate fanbase.
 
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