Size Of The New Enterprise (large images)

[Neeka Keet]

So, let's see:

1) The ship is a Tardis
2) It's 2,000,000 miles long and 300 meters long
3) It has lens flare phasers capable of lasik
4) It has a brewery
5) It has racks of shuttles
6) Apple store bridge with price scanners
7) Did I mention lens flare?

Wow, is there anything this ship can't do?

If it has a Starbucks I'm "enlisting" in Starfleet NOW!

 

[Praetor]

They're obviously built of nobreakium.

(Wait for it.)

Bohhh!!!

Ah, I missed it. I knew you'd get it. Mother Horta would be proud.

Wow, is there anything this ship can't do?

Nuke a burrito so hot even IT can't eat it?

Nah, that's what the blue warp nacelles are for. Cuz, ya know, blue fire is the hottest fire.

So, 732 meters is looking more and more right... Can't say that makes me super-happy, but can't say its a deal-breaker, either.

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

 

[Hyperspace05]

Unfortunately that doesn't work completely It certainly does not match the shuttle bay, which could stack those shuttles on three levels. It's got to be 50% bigger *IF* that matches other measurements.

But it may be compromise solution. How long would the ship be in your new image, Johnnymuffintop?

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Excellent image, Johnny, but the shuttlebay really doesn't work. The bay needs to be large enough to stack them on two platforms with enough room to take off and land by themselves, and needs to be deep enough to hold them seven deep.

 

[TheMadCloner]

To compromise, they're probably going to have to retcon the design so the posterior of the primary hull is thicker, without actually causing a proportional increase in the volume of the other parts of the ship.

 

[ST-One]

The ship is huge:

Something unrelated to her size... that little nipple on the lower edge of the image (below the 'S') could that be one of the ship's RCS-thrusters? (We've seen them placed all over the lower side of the saucer and the nacelle)

 

[ST-One]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

Dear god, I thought this would never happen but I'm actually starting to like her even better than the Refit...

 

[miraclefan]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

Now you see, THIS is what we shuld have been using, this is far more accurate then the EX-ASTRIS sideshot. Thing is it seems the windows on the saucer section are bigger then they really are.

 

[EJD1984]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

Looks good. Have you worked out a rough number for the length?

I came up with about 457m (1500ft).

Though looking at the relative size of this comparison, take away the Viagra enhanced nacelles, and the ship does not seem to be all that excessively larger.

 

[Admiral Buzzkill]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

No, the shuttle at that relative scale fits too snugly into the hangar deck. Take another look at the images of the shuttles entering the hangar deck - the ship should be about twice the size you have it at.

 

[saddestmoon]

All sizes issues aside - I really like those renders of the Enterprise - she looks beautiful!!!!

She and the TMP Refit are my all-time favourite Starships in equal measure... None surpass them both in design and appearance, IMO.

 

[Johnnymuffintop]

From the looks of it, they were VERY snug in there.

Plus, when you see Pine's shuttle leaving, it looks like it almost completely fills the space of the shuttlebay door.

Perhaps because they didn't really have an official size, the just went with whatever was more fitting to the story...?
And in all actuality, the TOS shuttlebay would have been able to house TOS shuttlecraft the same way the NuEnt did.

Oh, and are we all decided, we're going to use the image I posted as a reference from now on? (The thread can be found here:
http://www.scifi-meshes.com/forums/2d-wips/63291-new-uss-enterprise-profile.html

 

[Jolantru]

Look, it's not that big, it's just a little bigger. I used the shuttle image from Ex-Astris and the Enterprise from a thread on Scifi-meshes to make this image. I'm pleased with this scale.

Dear god, I thought this would never happen but I'm actually starting to like her even better than the Refit...

I agree, the new ship is just bad ass.

 

[Gepard]

^Yeah, that's a damn sexy side-view. If only the nacelles weren't so close together in curved pylons, she'd be one of the best ever.

By the way, there's a debate going on in the Art forum about the size of the ship. A new poster there has been doing his/her own work on scaling and seems to think the ship is actually slightly smaller than the TOS version. I posted a link to this thread there, so maybe we can get come cross discussion going?

 

[Shaw]

This is still being debated? I thought the size was established already.

I'm just waiting for someone to re-imagine many of the TOS episodes...

Kirk: What's its mass Mr. Spock?
Spock: Reading hardly shows on my scale. Must be a mile in diameter... hardly enough room for one person.
Bailey: Only 5,000 meters away, and it is still hardly visible on the screen.
Kirk: Magnify image. Let me at least see it.​

 

[Crazy Eddie]

Saw the movie again today (third time's a charm). Noticed that scene with Pike's shuttle leaving, but slightly more importantly I got the impression that the shuttlecraft of the NuEnt aren't dramatically bigger than the original TOS shuttles. The only difference seems to be the new shuttles make better use of that space, packing passengers and equipment in much more tightly than before. That being the case, the above diagram is off only because the shuttle is scaled too large; if you have it at the same proportion as the bridge window and the frame around it (being just about one deck high, IOW), then it would fit in there as described just fine.

 

[Brutal Strudel]

This is still being debated? I thought the size was established already.

I'm just waiting for someone to re-imagine many of the TOS episodes...

Kirk: What's its mass Mr. Spock?
Spock: Reading hardly shows on my scale. Must be a mile in diameter... hardly enough room for one person.
Bailey: Only 5,000 meters away, and it is still hardly visible on the screen.
Kirk: Magnify image. Let me at least see it.
​

So in the new timeline, the Galaxy class should be the size of the galaxy.

 

[kNkg]

The reason it looks snug when the shuttle with Pike and the drop crew leaves the dockingbay is because the doors are still expanding, if you continue to watch that scene you'll see them moving further apart. So I would not use the width of the separated doors to determine any size since it's pretty much impossible to know exactly how much they were opened, also considering the angle and position of the camera anything that's coming out of there will look larger than what it actualy is. A better reference in that picture is the registry number that look at least to me about the same size compared to the shuttle as in the previous scene where they first land on Enterprise.


KK

 

[Kpnuts]

The ship is huge:

The TOS shuttle is, at most, two-thirds the size of the shuttle used in the movie.

That render doesn't help your case. For all you know you've placed the shuttle too close to the hull, it could be many metres out, we just don't know because there's no shadow on the movie version.

The ship is huge. Over 700 metres, without a doubt.