I see no reason why the Impossible Missions Force shouldn’t be active in the 24th century.
Should there be an ST/M:I crossover?
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I have decided No.
Hear me out, though. The premise is that Tom Paris watches Mission: Impossible on his period tube or the holodeck after his encounter with Rain Robinson, who mentions having seen all of it. Since the franchise is public domain in the 24th century, there is nothing stopping him from reusing every bit of the concept for a new Starfleet unit supervised by Admiral Paris, who is now on much better terms with his son.
The concept is just silly enough for Season 3 of Lower Decks and can’t be carried too far or Tom Cruise would have something to say about that.
The concept is just silly enough for Season 3 of Lower Decks and can’t be carried too far or Tom Cruise would have something to say about that.
Paramount owns Mission: Impossible, not Mr. Cruise, so they can do what they want. The universes are mutually incompatible though, as they would instantly raise questions about both Star Trek's shaky 20th-21st century period and M:I's existence as a quasi-reboot.
The period isn’t shaky between 1966 and 1973 at least, when Desilu and Paramount could’ve easily produced the original show almost as we know it. The reason I mention Tom Cruise is that I don’t think Paramount would risk doing anything that could make him lose interest in the film franchise, especially a full-fledged TV series. LD is almost a parody so a crossover wouldn’t be a concern, except that it would introduce a version of the IMF into the Star Trek canon.
Amanda’s ancestor, yes.
Picard or Discovery should have one of the other Paramount+ shows as an in-universe holoprogram and do a crossover episode. In show A, Trek actor is a guest star and everything is normal. In show B, Trek actor is LARPing on the holodeck playing the events of show A and shit's going horribly wrong in there putting the whole ship at risk.
I'm not sure we need the IMF in Trek but I reckon Tom Cruise starring and producing a movie would be a hit. Don't get me wrong I'm not a massive Cruise fan, I tend to prefer his crapper films like Days Of Thunder, but having read about his approach I'm convinced as a starship Captain he'd be like a new Shatner
Star Trek and Mission: Impossible are both Westphall Universe shows.
Mission: Impossible featured Morley Cigarettes, also used (prominently) in The X-Files which featured a cameo by John Munch, of Homicide: Life on the Street, which crossed over with St. Elsewhere (AKA the Tommy Westphall show. I've never seen it).
Star Trek has the Jackson Roykirk connection with Team Knight Rider, which is a spin-off of real Knight Rider, which had another spin-off in 2008 called Knight Rider, which crossed over with Las Vegas, which also crossed over with Heroes, which featured Morley Cigarettes...
Maybe in a comic book..the usual Enterprise gets thrown back to the late 60s, encounters the MI team, have to work together etc etc .. Along the way they'd encounter a kid whod help them out.. leading to the end twist of it being young Ethan Hunt whod watch as the Enterprise team beam up to the ship/warp away in the night sky..
Star Trek: The Search for Xenu
If done poorly. Usually poorly. The secret to a decent even good crossover is to respect both sources. Not set out to prove how much better one is over the other. If the over-crosser can do that they can knock themselves out. I might even read the thing.
There is nothing incomparable between MI and ST. One is a 20th century highly secret international operation, the other 23-25th century Starfleet. There may well be a similar organization in the Trekverse.
And I never knock fan service.
Usually, yes.
In this instance they might be able to make it work. But, I see no need to do it.
There is no percieved need to do any of this, yet we do. I would be the last person to deny the creative urge.
Fair point.
Star Trek is listed as one of over 400 series in the Tommy Westphaill Universe or John Munch Universe.
https://thetommywestphall.wordpress.com/
But another site has a much smaller list of Star Trek crossovers:
https://fictionalcrossover.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek
A third site has different stardards for counting crossovers:
http://poobala.com/crossoverlist.html
It's version of the Tommy westphail universe is known as "Group 2" and had only one hundred plus a few more series the last time that I counted. It puts various Star Trek series in "Group 10" which has 17 series in the list I saw today. It doesn't list any Star Trek series after Star Trek: Enterpise.
I note that's its "Group 30" includes 18 shows which are included in the Tommy Westphail Unverse, along with Star Trek, according to other sources. One of the Shows in "Group 30" is Girl Meets World, which is also one of the shows in the Disney Channel Live Action Universe:
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/DisneyChannelLiveActionUniverse
And Girl Meets World is also a series in the TGIF Universe.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Franchise/TGIF
I note that there might be a crossover between TNG and Webster,
https://memory-beta.fandom.com/wiki... unexpectedly adopt a young boy named Webster.
Howevr, I don't know of any alleged crossovers between any other shows and Webster, so even if that corssover is correct it wouldn't lead to much.,
And don't forget this thread:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-is-part-of-mcu.293148/
And:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/ridiculous-crossovers-youd-like-to-see.268483/page-21#post-12913966
And:
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/if-you-could-crossover-st-tos.302861/page-2
I have seen a website that put Star Trek in the Wold Newton Universe.
http://www.pjfarmer.com/woldnewton/Spock.htm#:~:text=THE WOLD NEWTON UNIVERSE AND STAR TREK by,direct descendant of the Great Detective, Sherlock Holmes.
I note that there are other examples of writers combining several different fictional fictional universes in a larger one.
Are there any crossovers between Star Trek and the Cthulhu Mythos?
https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/cthulhu-in-star-trek.78831/
A number of science fiction writers put several of their ficitonal universes together as parts of one fictional multiverse. They include Robert A. Heinlein and Isaac Asimov.
James Blish may have done something similar, since some separate stories from separate fictional universes have elements in common, suggesting that the separate fictional universes are alternate universes in a larger multiverse. And James Blish inserted elements from Cities in Flight and from 'This Earth of Hours" into his adaptations of TOS episodes. This suggests that maybe, perhaps Star Trek could be considered to be an alternate universe in a multiverse containing at least some of Blish's fiction.
So which shows someone thinks Star Trek is already in the same fictional universe as depends on their standards for classifying TV series, movies, books, comic books ,etc. in the same series.
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