If you could crossover ST:TOS....

Discussion in 'Star Trek - The Original & Animated Series' started by telerites, Feb 1, 2020.

  1. Greg Cox

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    A TOS/XENA crossover, picking up from "Who Mourns from Adonais."

    Kirk's landing party end up stuck in ancient Greece, where they have to seek out the Greek gods, who are actually space aliens. Need Xena's and Gabrielle's help to get to Mount Olympus . . .
     
  2. Poltargyst

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    Star Wars would seem to be a natural.

    Spock: The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few or the one.

    Yoda: Aaaaaaaaaaah, but in the Force, all are one.

    Spock: Fascinating.
     
  3. johnnybear

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    TOS and Planet of The Apes in comic form, which I've sadly never read or know how it ends!!! :confused:
    Sadly actor Stan Kirsch committed suicide three weeks ago so that story could now never be filmed! :weep:
    JB
     
  4. Timewalker

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    I wonder who's better at the "pinch" - Xena or Spock? He does it to render people unconscious, while she does it as an interrogation technique.

    Gabrielle would look rather cute in a Starfleet uniform (not sure if red or blue would be more appropriate, since she's essentially a warrior-bard).


    Hm. I've just checked the crossovers for Voyager on fanfiction.net and read a cute little story where the First Doctor, Ian, Barbara, and Vicki have a brief stop on Voyager.


    :(

    Damn, that's a shame.
     
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  5. somebuddyx

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    I always love the idea of the contemporary-era made sci-fi shows all hanging out, so like:
    1960s: TOS, the First or Second Doctor (or both) and the crew of the Jupiter 2. Maybe on the Planet of the Apes and the Discovery of 2001 shows up too.
    1970s: TMP, Battlestar Galactica Season 1, Star Wars and Doctor Who's Fourth Doctor.
     
  6. Gov Kodos

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    TOS/Farscape, Kirk dealing with Talyn and the Peacekeepers would be fun.
     
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  7. Spock .

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    I agree that Star Wars would be a natural choice to combine with Star Trek.

    The differences between the two, however, would have to be compromised.

    The gravity of Star Wars, does with always coincide with the levity of Star Trek, which is especially evident in the Spock vs. McCoy episodes.

    If someone could do that though, I think it would be great!
     
  8. JonnyQuest037

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    If you want to read a Trek/Who crossover of sorts, check out issue #15 of John Byrne's Star Trek: New Visions photoplay series, "The Traveler."
    I was a bit disappointed by the TOS/POTA crossover, although you've got to love the title "The Primate Directive."
     
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    Have the crew be transported to Madison Avenue in the 1960s and encounter the staff of SCDP in Mad Men.

    Kor
     
  10. Foxhot

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    The worst words one could hear minus ''No... I am your father!''

    ABC World News Tonight with David ''Look at this'' Muir was too busy covering three-day-old kids-in-jeopardy clips to bother mentioning Delany quitting. (Unless I missed a broadcast....)

    That's a nice switch from the three or four episodes in which the putzes had a perfect opportunity to return to Earth then instantly forgot they could.

    If Smith is mute for five minutes, that's a plus.

    I've always entertained a BY ANY OTHER NAME crossover with LIS myself.......among other shows. I probably enjoy the episode more than most, probably because of its unusual visual effects and surprises.

    The Irwin Allen version wouldn't destroy any cubed Robinsons as it's kid-oriented, though judging from previous cast treatments, the only show regulars the Kelvans would find worthy of keeping uncubed would be the four males and the Robot. God forbid or Smith Will get sidelined for a second.:borg:

    Chekovburster.
     
  11. MAGolding

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    I had an idea that possibly Commander Apollo's fate in Galactica 1978 might be that he was in a ship with a group of other Colonials that approached Earth and then went in a time warp far into Earth's past. Apollo and the other Colonials were considered gods by the ancient Greeks. When the Roman Empire converted to Christianity and worship of the Greek Gods was forbidden, Apollo and the others moved to Pollux IV. And the rest is history....

    As I remember, a Diane Duane novel, possibly The Shattered Sky, had a scene in the Enterprise rec room where someone played Dr. Who images. I think that proves that Dr. Who is ficitonal in star Trek novels, but maybe they were playing some historical record.

    But in Barbara Hambly's novel Ismael many fictional characters are seen, including:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(Star_Trek)

    So is Doctor Who fictional, or real, or possibly both (I think there's a tv Trope) in the universe of Star Trek novels? and those that have anything to do with Doctor Who being ral of fictional in Star Trek canon?
     
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  12. Redfern

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    Not so much a "crossover" with another series or franchise, but I would have loved for Robby the Robot to have appeared in an episode. Maybe somebody here can imagine a reasonable scenario for his appearance.
     
  13. garakvsneelix

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    If I could crossover TOS, I think, I would crossover it with the JJA-crew or maybe with DSC. In both cases it would be a story about one ship, that ends up in a parallel universe and meets the other ship. And please, don't let me be missunderstood: I don't write this, because I hate AbramsTrek oder DSC - in fact, I don't. No, I just think, that a comparision between the both Enterprise-crews would be funny and an excellent way to tell a story about the different ways a person could go. And while I like DSC as a show, I think, that some of its greatest 'problems' would have been banned when it would take place in any other timeline than the 'original timeline'.
     
  14. telerites

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    I put Gilligan's Island in my first post to start this thread. I actually was hoping the ST crew could finally get them off that island. Plus the Spock and the Professor dialog could be entertaining and of course, Kirk could have "fun" with Ginger and/or Mary Ann.
     
  15. Poltargyst

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    They did get off the island.
     
  16. Mysterion

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    The Wounded Sky. And yes, one of the Enterprise crew was converting old 2-D entertainment video in to holo-video. And, it was clearly meant to be Tom Baker as the Doctor, so yes in the Trek universe (or at least Diane Duane's interpretation thereof), Doctor Who is an old fictional program.
     
  17. thribs

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    TOS and ‘66 Batman.
     
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  18. Falconer

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    Seconded!

    Also, Indiana Jones 5 is coming. Should be just about the right timeframe for a brush with all of the above!
     
  19. telerites

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    It has been a long, long time since I saw the later movies. I thought they always found a way to be stranded again. I stand corrected.

    I also thought about TAS and Gilligan's Planet as a fun one.
     
  20. MAGolding

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    Yes, reading The Wounded Sky (1983) gave me the impression that Doctor Who, like a work of fiction should be, was fictional in the universe of Star Trek. But Doctor Who seems to be real in Barbara Hambly's novel Ishmael (1985):

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ishmael_(Star_Trek)

    So any fictional universe that includes both those Star Trek novels would seem to have Doctor Who both fictional and real somehow. And I'm sure some fans consider all the different Star Trek novels to be in the same fictional universe. As I remember, the James Dixon chronology attempted to put all the Star Trek productions, comic books, comic strips, short stories, and novels into one all inclusive chronology, So in the James Dixon chronology both The Wounded Sky (1983) and Ishmael (1985) are part of the Star Trek universe and thus Doctor Who is somehow both fictional and real in James Dixon's version of the Star Trek universe.

    And there is precedent for something to somehow be both real and fictional in a work of fiction.

    TV Tropes discusses shows that in the Nick Verse or Schneiderverse and mentions such situations several times:

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/NickVerse

    https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/MutuallyFictional is described as:

    Arrgh! This is so common it's actually a trope!

    Therefore it is conceivable that Doctor Who might somehow paradoxically be both fictional and real in the fictional universe of Star Trek. I don't understand how it could be possible for something to actually be both fictional and real at the some time, but it is obviously possible to write a story A in which story B is both fictional and real, since it has been done. The concept makes me feel like a computer that Kirk is about to short circuit, but obviously there is nothing to stop writers from writing the worlds that will make something both fictional and real in a story..

    And there is a thread about whether Star Trek is in the MCU.

    https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/star-trek-is-part-of-mcu.293148/

    And there in posts # 6, 11, 13, 15, 40, 41, 42, 49, & 51, I mentioned many other works of fiction that some sources claim are part of the same fictional universes as Star Trek, so any future crossovers between those stories, novels, television shows, movies, etc., and Star Trek would not necessarily be creating new links between them and Star Trek but might be merely reinforcing preexisting links.

    And there is another thread about crossovers between various television shows: https://www.trekbbs.com/threads/ridiculous-crossovers-youd-like-to-see.268483/page-21#post-12913966
     
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