Should Paramount put a mid-budget Star Trek film into theaters?

Discussion in 'Star Trek Movies: Kelvin Universe' started by The Overlord, Jul 4, 2023.

  1. valkyrie013

    valkyrie013 Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

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    Oh quite true, I would do the space station, but EVERY scene on he planet had some CGI on it, all spikey. So yes, they could have used less CGI in that movie and kept the cost down.
     
  2. fireproof78

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    Yorktown station is gorgeous. Cutting it would be a massive mistake.
     
  3. Set Harth

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    ...It was actually used in the movie in a big way, much more than one shot? :shrug:
     
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  4. saddestmoon

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    After all these years - as excited as I get with other trek formats happening (SNWs, Picard, Discovery, etc) I still get more excited about the prospect / rumour / whispering of another Kelvin-Timeline Trek movie!
     
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  5. FederationHistorian

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    Tarantino’s the way to go if they want something mid-budget.
     
  6. Richard S. Ta

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    Tarantino usually takes a $20 million advance before he'll even sit in the directors chair. By the time he's done, he typically walks away with $30-40 million.

    So that's a good chunk of your mid-budget right there.

    Just as a note to any wannabe armchair-bean counters around here who don't know what they are talking about, putting one of the worlds most respected, critically acclaimed auteur directors at the heart of your project is not a way to cut costs.
     
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    That did not refute a single thing I said. Or refute the fact that all his movies are mid-budget productions, which Paramount wants.
     
  8. fireproof78

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    Tarantino would not make Star Trek that would appeal to many.

    He would make something to suit his tastes, that are often violent, sweary, and things that people usually say are not Star Trek. Bringing in Tarantino is not a guarantee of anything.
     
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  9. Ovation

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    It does guarantee that I will see it multiple times. But beyond that, I cannot say.
     
  10. M'Sharak

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    Is that actually what Paramount wants, or just adhering to the premise of this thread?

    Remembering a few years ago, when people were critical of what seemed to be overlarge budgets for Star Trek movies. They insisted it could be done for much less, which is true -- it could have been.

    Also true, however, was that Paramount explicitly did not want them to be done for less. It was the studio that set the production budgets and hired a production company which would bring the movies in on time and on budget. They were--at that time--uninterested in doing lower-cost Star Trek movies.

    So, again: has Paramount said they now want a mid-budget production, or is that what [someone else] has decided independently that Paramount should do?
     
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  11. FederationHistorian

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    So, he’d remake “A Piece of the Action”, Tarantino-style, and it would make a lot of money. Much like how Into Darkness was a “Space Seed” remake, and it made a lot of money.

    Am I missing something? I don’t see the problem here.
     
  12. fireproof78

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    I don't see an R rated Trek flying now.
     
  13. FederationHistorian

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    An R rating isn’t NC-17. Therefore, the movie would still be widely distributed.
     
  14. Richard S. Ta

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    I think the assumption that Tarantino would just redo 'A Piece of the Action' or some similarly violent piece is reductive. Tarantino has proved time and again that he can be more creative than that.

    I'd love to see the plans he had, script or nay. I guess it must be fascinating.

    Is it what paramount wants?

    Citation needed.

    I think it comes from Chris Pine saying that Paramount should stop expecting Star Trek to make Marvel money.

    I don't believe that Paramount has really stated what they want from a Trek movie either way, because I don't think they actually know what they want.
     
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  15. fireproof78

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    Misses the point.

    Which is fine.
     
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  16. FederationHistorian

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    I guess mainstream media outlets are also reductive, since that’s what they reported.

    https://variety.com/feature/quentin-tarantino-star-trek-explained-1235184059/

    Actually, I didn't. Though you seem to think so.

    Which is fine.

    EDIT: Since I'm completely bored with this narrative, I may as well answer this too.

    So, everyone who has been saying that “Paramount is broke” on the board and elsewhere all year have been lying all along? And reports that they should stop streaming are lying? Since if Paramount is in fact in financial distress, then logically, if they wanted to still release a film – especially with theatres being in trouble with no hits besides Barbenheimer, and Top Gun: Maverick the year before - they would go ahead with a mid-budget film with Tarantino or someone like him directing it. Which, compared to the JJ films that are notoriously expensive to make, would be savings amounting to $60M+.
     
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  17. M'Sharak

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    That's a lot of words which still avoid answering what ought to be a simple question: Is [a mid-budget movie] what Paramount wants?

    If so, all you had to do is point to where they said exactly that.

    Instead, we get a lot of tap-dancing around the question.

    You're also treading very close to the line of accusing others here of lying. I'd recommend against any more of that.

    And then we get this, which suggests you know you've been playing everyone.

    If you're really as bored as that, it's a simple thing to leave the conversation before you start insulting people. Since you couldn't manage it yourself, allow me to help.
     
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  18. STEPhon IT

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    No love for DISCO??? I'm surprised that series, the 1st from CBSALLACCESS Trek, paved the way for the other series that followed is not even considered for a motion picture project. The series do have their fans and they deserve to see their heroes on the big screen to continue the tradition from TOS and TNG transitioning from small screen to the big one.
     
  19. F. King Daniel

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    Well supposedly a Disco/Kelvinverse movie was considered in 2018ish. It was one of those rumours doing the rounds on the nonsense sites and a writer mentioned it was a real thing at one point which kinda blew my mind. I'm curious what it would have been about.
     
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  20. Serveaux

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    You would be the only one.