Greer was at one point chasing Rush, and even informed Young he was doing so. But then Rush stabbed Wray, believng her to also be a Sombreroid, thus making her easy picking for Greer.
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SG-U – Pain (1x17) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)
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Greer was at one point chasing Rush, and even informed Young he was doing so. But then Rush stabbed Wray, believng her to also be a Sombreroid, thus making her easy picking for Greer.
Anyone else want to see Greer shoved out an airlock? I'm tired of the angry attitude all episode long 17 episodes in a row. He was abused as a child.... ok... makes him no more sympathetic to me because he continues to act like a giant douche.
I hate to levy the description of "filler" upon an episode of television--far too often, it's used as a synonym for "I didn't like the episode" rather than a term of any specific meaning.
But this episode was filler. And not juts the "I didn't like it" variety. If this were an episode of Babylon 5, it would have been written by Larry DiTillio. We learn nothing new about the characters, about the ship, about the aliens, or about anything else. The only thing that changed at the end of the episode was that our characters are back to being full of angst and distrust for one another. And if the show is intent on steering back towards that territory, count this viewer out.
Oh, and there was another stupid pop-music montage at the end.
2/10 (production values like this at least provide 1 point).
But this episode was filler. And not juts the "I didn't like it" variety. If this were an episode of Babylon 5, it would have been written by Larry DiTillio. We learn nothing new about the characters, about the ship, about the aliens, or about anything else. The only thing that changed at the end of the episode was that our characters are back to being full of angst and distrust for one another. And if the show is intent on steering back towards that territory, count this viewer out.
Oh, and there was another stupid pop-music montage at the end.
2/10 (production values like this at least provide 1 point).
I'm a fan of 2nd Lieutenant Tits Mcgee
Though Lt. Juggs wouldn't be the worst way to go 
Yeah, filler. It's a shame, too, because it didn't have to be. I'm not terribly upset they skipped the intergalactic gap--if they didn't have a good story to tell in that situation, I'd certainly prefer they skip it. But then they give us this crap instead. What the hell?
Parts of it were definitely enjoyable. The opening was going well until Scott died, and then I knew it was going to be a mindfuck episode.
Rush going nuts was awesome, too. But we had to have yet another fucking music montage. 
STOP IT!!!!
Oh well, only three episodes to go, right?
Parts of it were definitely enjoyable. The opening was going well until Scott died, and then I knew it was going to be a mindfuck episode.
Rush going nuts was awesome, too. But we had to have yet another fucking music montage. STOP IT!!!!Oh well, only three episodes to go, right?
I like his character--that's why I hope it gets developed so that he's NOT a one-note.
It's a shame. Like Robert Maxwell said, it was filler but it didn't need to be.
This episode could have been used to tell us new things about these people thru the mind games. Or they could have done a sort of spooky/horror type episode with it. But they didn't do either. This episode felt like a Grade Z Trek rip off. Honestly it felt a lot like a one off episode of SG1 or Atlantis. And I thought SGU was trying for something different. I just hope we don't see too many episodes like this. I watch this show for the characters, not lame "threat of the week" type stuff.
On a show like SGU I guess we have to have the occasional episode like this. I just hope they are few and far between.
Worst episode of the season imo, and I had really been enjoying the last few episodes.
This episode could have been used to tell us new things about these people thru the mind games. Or they could have done a sort of spooky/horror type episode with it. But they didn't do either. This episode felt like a Grade Z Trek rip off. Honestly it felt a lot like a one off episode of SG1 or Atlantis. And I thought SGU was trying for something different. I just hope we don't see too many episodes like this. I watch this show for the characters, not lame "threat of the week" type stuff.
On a show like SGU I guess we have to have the occasional episode like this. I just hope they are few and far between.
Worst episode of the season imo, and I had really been enjoying the last few episodes.
A very disappointing generic filler episode, that with minor alterations could have happend on almoust every other Sci-Fi show.
Also i got the impression, that this episode was initially set to be ealier in this half-season. Since they made a big deal of leaving the galaxy in the last ep. , i would have expected one or two episodes set only on the ship in the intergalactic void (which could have been done with this storyline, but the active stargate at the end pretty much killed that) or at least a mention of entering the new galaxy. So i pretty much think, that this episode would fit in better between "Devided" and "Human".
Also i got the impression, that this episode was initially set to be ealier in this half-season. Since they made a big deal of leaving the galaxy in the last ep. , i would have expected one or two episodes set only on the ship in the intergalactic void (which could have been done with this storyline, but the active stargate at the end pretty much killed that) or at least a mention of entering the new galaxy. So i pretty much think, that this episode would fit in better between "Devided" and "Human".
I caught the one about Franklin (and thought this to be a last minute addition), but the "new galaxy" i missed.
Overall, I kind of liked the episode but I can agree that it wasn't the best, I would have loved for the twist to be that Rush wasn't hallucinating, he simply thought he was. I got the idea early on that something was going on when James killed Scott, a more subtle mind fuck for most of the episode would have been using the element where Wray was seen in the different shirts,
I kind of wish the gap got an episode or two, maybe one where everyone having nothing to do, reflects and deals with their actions of the past season. Perhaps some reconciling happens, perhaps someone, somewhere decides they've been a dick from no reason at all, etc... In short, there was time to do some pretty cool character backstory episodes, and what we got was...ticks.
Bah.
I kind of wish the gap got an episode or two, maybe one where everyone having nothing to do, reflects and deals with their actions of the past season. Perhaps some reconciling happens, perhaps someone, somewhere decides they've been a dick from no reason at all, etc... In short, there was time to do some pretty cool character backstory episodes, and what we got was...ticks.
Bah.
Actually i think this was planned from the beginning. I'm pretty sure, this will be the same guys, that attacked the Icarus base in the pilot.
As we learned in "Human", Icarus base was build on a planet that belonged to the Lucian Alliance, which helped in the search for a planet with the specific geological makeup and allowed a base there.
My guess is, that Earth did not tell them, what they planned to do on that base, and when the LA found out, they got pissed and attacked. After that, the LA probably tried to recreate the experiment to get the "payoff, that the humans withheld from them".
As we learned in "Human", Icarus base was build on a planet that belonged to the Lucian Alliance, which helped in the search for a planet with the specific geological makeup and allowed a base there.
My guess is, that Earth did not tell them, what they planned to do on that base, and when the LA found out, they got pissed and attacked. After that, the LA probably tried to recreate the experiment to get the "payoff, that the humans withheld from them".
Filler ep as everyone has mentioned, they could have used the ticks to tell us something NEW about the characters, but instead all we learned was stuff we already knew.
I think they also should have had an ep or two more in the void, people going crazy, maybe finding an old ship floating out there, a mysterious ship that they board, and its all spooky, like maybe finding an Earth ship, from the far future that somehow got sent back in time millions of years ago and has been sitting there in the void for a million years, and is all decayed and the crew dead, and the ship dead, but it is all spooky inside, and we see technology integrated into it that we don't even recognize and is unusable because we don't understand it. Something like that would be interesting, we needed a real spooky episode in the void, to make it look like a scary place. Shoot even a big space void creature that flies around in the void. There was a lot of wasted potential there.
BTW, IIRC, it was said it would take a few weeks to cross the void, so it seems we jumped forward a few weeks in this ep.
I think they also should have had an ep or two more in the void, people going crazy, maybe finding an old ship floating out there, a mysterious ship that they board, and its all spooky, like maybe finding an Earth ship, from the far future that somehow got sent back in time millions of years ago and has been sitting there in the void for a million years, and is all decayed and the crew dead, and the ship dead, but it is all spooky inside, and we see technology integrated into it that we don't even recognize and is unusable because we don't understand it. Something like that would be interesting, we needed a real spooky episode in the void, to make it look like a scary place. Shoot even a big space void creature that flies around in the void. There was a lot of wasted potential there.
BTW, IIRC, it was said it would take a few weeks to cross the void, so it seems we jumped forward a few weeks in this ep.
Don't argue with you there. I was just observing, that this seems to have been planed by the time, the first episode was written, not some recent act of desperation.
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