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SG-U – Light (1x05) - (Discuss – Grade | SPOILERS)

Grade Light

  • 10 Chevrons – Out of this Universe

    Votes: 15 12.7%
  • 9 Chevrons – Beyond the known Galaxies

    Votes: 31 26.3%
  • 8 Chevrons – In the Milky Way Galaxy

    Votes: 43 36.4%
  • 7 Chevrons – Within our Solar System

    Votes: 16 13.6%
  • 6 Chevrons – Haven’t got past Earth (Average)

    Votes: 5 4.2%
  • 5 Chevrons – No flying machines at all

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 4 Chevrons – Pre-Industrial

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 3 Chevrons – Dark Ages

    Votes: 1 0.8%
  • 2 Chevron – Throwing rocks and stones

    Votes: 2 1.7%
  • 1 Chevron – Cannot Establish Lock

    Votes: 1 0.8%

  • Total voters
    118
Yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn.

FAIL: at the end of the last epsiode, I commented that the Destiny must be heading to the sun for fuel. Throughout this episode it was clear it was doing so. Yet these intelligent people can't work it out? They lose any credibility.
Well, they were headed into the star so it's not hard to believe they thought their number was up (especially when they believed the power reserves were used up). Plus they did hint Rush might have figured it out.
 
8/10 for me. Given that the end of the episode was predictable even at the end of last week's episode I was impressed that they still had me somewhat on the edge of my seat and there was good drama there. The Scott/Chloe thing was a bit out of left field, but I guess there had been some foreshadowing of an attraction between them. I've still got a sneaking suspicion that Lt Scott might turn out to be something of a badguy, not sure why but the thought keeps popping into my head.

I really like Young as a leader, and I loved the conversation between him and the HR lady very interesting.

Rush was much better than his mad act last week. The longer the series goes on the less Baltar I see in him and the more Kerr Avon...so much the better.

I don't see why people have a problem with Chloe choosing to sleep with Scott and not Eli. Irrespective of how much you might like someone most people won't have sex unless they have some physical attraction to them. anyway if I was Eli I'd be out to impress Lt woman, she's hotter!
 
So much drama in this episode. I would have been on the edge of my seat more if I actually thought anyone was in danger. This would have worked better as a series finale... overall a good episode though.
 
I don't see why people have a problem with Chloe choosing to sleep with Scott and not Eli. Irrespective of how much you might like someone most people won't have sex unless they have some physical attraction to them. anyway if I was Eli I'd be out to impress Lt woman, she's hotter!

It really has nothing to do with Eli in my case. I just wish they'd done more to establish Chloe as a character before throwing her in bed with anyone.

It's going to be far too easy to define her by this now. I still hope they don't go that way.
 
How else do you want to define her? She's just the daughter of a us senator. She has no authority, no useful skills so she might as well just be a slut. And yes, Johanssen is waaay hotter.
 
I don't see why people have a problem with Chloe choosing to sleep with Scott and not Eli. Irrespective of how much you might like someone most people won't have sex unless they have some physical attraction to them. anyway if I was Eli I'd be out to impress Lt woman, she's hotter!

It really has nothing to do with Eli in my case. I just wish they'd done more to establish Chloe as a character before throwing her in bed with anyone.

It's going to be far too easy to define her by this now. I still hope they don't go that way.

I thought her character was a mistake to be honest. I mean WTF does she bring to the table? Eli has maths skills then we have the military guys (Mr Can't-Keep-Dick-In-Pants, Angry-Black-Man,Lt-Hot and the medic)

But Chloe. Blah. I have no idea why they created her character in the first place. I guess they just wanted an another woman in the mix.
 
I could see her character working as a minor, recurring cast member. But there's very little reason for her to be front and center in every episode, and that's already starting to show.
 
MGM's spin machine will cling to those DVR numbers until it explodes, but whether they matter at all is another question.

Second point, that article refers to Air, Part III (week two). Not this episode, which is Light (week four).

It's not just them, and it's not just this show. DVR use is much higher than it was in 2004, and it's only going to rise. I'd be interested to see an overall comparison in television ratings over the same period, especially live vs. DVR (a little tricky, perhaps, as they may not have been picking up on DVR recordings in 04.)
 
I think Chloe is a fine addition to the show and I thought she was already defined as the young 20-something career-minded senator's daughter. What makes her interesting is that she's not a military type or a scientist. Plus, she's easy on the eyes.
 
I don't see why people have a problem with Chloe choosing to sleep with Scott and not Eli. Irrespective of how much you might like someone most people won't have sex unless they have some physical attraction to them. anyway if I was Eli I'd be out to impress Lt woman, she's hotter!

It really has nothing to do with Eli in my case. I just wish they'd done more to establish Chloe as a character before throwing her in bed with anyone.

It's going to be far too easy to define her by this now. I still hope they don't go that way.

Well considering what she's been through in the last few days (?) she's likely not thinking straight. First she gets marooned to another galaxy, then her dad dies before her eyes, then she learns she might well die herself in the next few hours. Stuff like that is enough to screw anyone up (and although two of those points hold for the rest of the survivors non of them saw their father die) so the sex thing isn't unbeleivable.

I can see her taking a role almost as the concience of the group. As someone else said she isn't military and isn't a scientist, and she hasn't really had the experience to beome a souless polititian/ICO rep yet :p She could be pivotal along with eli, assuming they make use of her in that way.
 
I don't want to shock anybody, but a person doesn't really need to be traumatized out of their mind to want sex. :rommie:
 
Yawn yawn yawn yawn yawn.

FAIL: at the end of the last epsiode, I commented that the Destiny must be heading to the sun for fuel. Throughout this episode it was clear it was doing so. Yet these intelligent people can't work it out? They lose any credibility.
Well, they were headed into the star so it's not hard to believe they thought their number was up (especially when they believed the power reserves were used up). Plus they did hint Rush might have figured it out.

By that verdict then, Rush and the sysadmin of Trek BBS are more clever than the entire military population of Destiny. They're not very clever.

The trouble is they didn't even FLOAT the idea. Sure even if they floated it, I'm not saying they should be getting pina coladas out. It'd be tense. But they don't even think these things through. Then they go "Oh wow" at the end. These people will not go far with that level of intelligence.

I do think they're trying to make them not very clever come to think of it. More "accesible" through the likes of Wesley etc. And the one actually clever person they make out to be a right ass so everyone can hate him.

John Crichton in Farscape was an excellent example of someone who can be totally fish out of water, yet take control and show some balls.
 
Also, keep in mind that this is the most expensive Gate show SyFy has produced, by a significant margin according to the producers.

How on earth...? What do they spend it on? There's been very little location shooting, no extensive CGI. It's mind boggling.
 
Actually, what didn't ring true for me was that Young and Rush were the only ones to recuse themselves from the lottery. There are a lot of people there, a number of them older. It's hard to believe there are no "women and children first" types around.

Oh, I believed it.
I didn't.

As RJDemonicus pointed out, there were quite a few older people in the crowd. Not everyone grew up in today's world where everyone is a self-serving, self-entitled, and all around selfish dickweed. Many older people (even today despite that mindset) had the benefit of understanding the concept of sacrificing oneself for the betterment of the group.

Note that despite the unfounded accusations Young made, both Rush and Young understood that concept. At least one or two others should have followed suit, if not more.

I wouldn't expect it from anyone in the younger crowd, though. Me me me me me.

I think you are placing the "older" generation far too much on a pedestal... i've seen some incredible egoistical and rude behaviour by people who could be my parents or grandparents.

I've always been convinced that in a true crisis everybody will show their true face and the result may also be very surprising to the people themselves. Where people think they are strong and just it turns out they're cowards and some may find true strength for the first time in their life.

So in this destination what good would a women and children first mindset have done? 17 people is by far too low a number to have a stable genetic pool to build a healty society, they'll have maybe a few decades of a miserable and hard life in front of them (assuming the planet can even bear human life and if not they'll just suffocate in the shuttle) so what point would there be in chivalry?

As to the episode.. quite good. It is so vastly different from the rest of Stargate that it's a refreshing breath of air even though it copies the mood of BSG a little bit too much (down to the visual style.. shaky, "documentary" style cam was nice when it first came up but by now it's just annoying). The hookup between Greer and that gal seemed very forced.. their "sweet" moments sawn by Eli seemed more for a couple who's been together awhile rather than people having a one night stand so i'm not really sure where all this is coming from (other than throwing a wrench between Eli's feet.. can't have the nerd actually "scoring" against the macho, hot army dude :rolleyes:).

Apart from this a very enjoyable, tense and visually stunning episode.
However i can only take several more ship crisis episodes before it gets boring.. it's natural that they have have to get to know the ship and settle in and deal with the old bucked but sooner or later they'll have to expand the scope a bit.
 
Also, keep in mind that this is the most expensive Gate show SyFy has produced, by a significant margin according to the producers.

How on earth...? What do they spend it on? There's been very little location shooting, no extensive CGI. It's mind boggling.

The sand location in Air, Part III was pretty expensive, and the Destiny is definitely an expensive set. Add to that a larger cast than the franchise has had before, and...I don't know, really. Something is costing them the extra money. Perhaps an actor like Robert Carlyle doesn't come cheap?
 
Maybe they're saving the budget for later in the season rather than blowing their wad straight away?
 
Also, keep in mind that this is the most expensive Gate show SyFy has produced, by a significant margin according to the producers.

How on earth...? What do they spend it on? There's been very little location shooting, no extensive CGI. It's mind boggling.

No, it's not mind boggling at all The West Wing could spend some 6 million per ep. without aliens, stargates and much location shooting.
 
No, it's not mind boggling at all The West Wing could spend some 6 million per ep. without aliens, stargates and much location shooting.

That had Martin Sheen and Rob Lowe, for a start.
 
Also, keep in mind that this is the most expensive Gate show SyFy has produced, by a significant margin according to the producers.

How on earth...? What do they spend it on? There's been very little location shooting, no extensive CGI. It's mind boggling.

No, it's not mind boggling at all The West Wing could spend some 6 million per ep. without aliens, stargates and much location shooting.

Um...they had a very, very expensive (And large) cast. Expensive guest stars. Expensive location shooting in Washington, DC (for an LA-based show, which in turn is more expensive). The West Wing had great production values, and a pricey cast, it's not hard to see where the money went.

Stargate Universe has a cast mostly of unknowns, and for the most part has been shooting on their standing sets (in cheap Vancouver!) for the past five shows. And with one (count 'em, one) alien appearance so far...I'm still waiting to see where all the money goes.
 
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