Sex: then and now

[valkyrie013]

In the real world an alien virus wouldn't effect us. It would be like a cat virus affecting a human. Does it mean there is zero chance ? No, but almost zero.
We would have to be on planet for awhile for it to jump species.
Still a decon chamber should exist and away teams should go through tests when they get back onboard and not let through until cleared.
Unless you have a face hugger clinging on..

 

[B'elanna_Torres]

Still a decon chamber should exist and away teams should go through tests when they get back onboard and not let through until cleared.

-biting bottom lip at the possibilities-

 

[Kor]

It's curious to only have one character wearing a form-fitting outfit, instead of everybody. Especially in a futuristic setting, skintight clothing should really be the norm for all physically fit characters doing physically demanding jobs. I mean, just look at cycling shorts and compression clothing for gym and football. This is cutting-edge stuff, designed for practical functionality. And our primitive late 20th/early 21st century notions of modesty will be a thing of the past by the 22nd century.

Kor

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

It's curious to only have one character wearing a form-fitting outfit, instead of everybody.

Maybe because it would look just a tad silly, not to mention unprofessional, to have the crew of a major ship of the line all dressed in catsuits? It'd be like walking into the board meeting of a major Fortune 500 company wearing a tutu.

just look at cycling shorts and compression clothing for gym and football. This is cutting-edge stuff, designed for practical functionality.

That's different. That's sports. Athletic competition requires getups like that. Manning your post on the bridge...doesn't.

And our primitive late 20th/early 21st century notions of modesty will be a thing of the past by the 22nd century.

Perhaps.

But there will always be those who simply choose to be modest (for whatever reason). You going to tell them they're wrong?

Look, if ever there comes a time when people regularly walk around naked all the time (like Gene Roddenberry used to think the "new humans" would do), hey, whatever. But what happens to those who don't particularly want to be naked?

 

[Kor]

Maybe because it would look just a tad silly, not to mention unprofessional, to have the crew of a major ship of the line all dressed in catsuits? It'd be like walking into the board meeting of a major Fortune 500 company wearing a tutu.
...

What looks "silly" or "unprofessional" is highly subjective according to the tastes of any given time and place, and it varies a great deal over the centuries (and across the world). Today, it would probably look silly for somebody to go around in tight leggings and a codpiece, but in Tudor-era England, that was standard garb for an aristocratic gentleman. Who knows what the standard for professionalism will be a couple centuries from now? For the record, I think the 2230s USS Kelvin uniforms in ST09 are one of the best designs in terms of fit. It definitely looks like something that would be functional in a high-action work environment such as Starfleet.

Kor

 

[valkyrie013]

For form vs function, the outfits shown in Enterprise would be my choice.There basically an equivalent of today's flight suits/coveralls. Plenty of pockets, comfortable. Kind of wish, in engineering ( and other work areas) that they showed the crew in just coveralls/work uniform instead of the standard uniform seen.
I worked in a shop, we had coveralls because, well, I got dirty working.. And if they got dirty, owell. For any type of "formal" stuff we got in Utility's ( Cammies, camouflage) and really formal got the fancy dress stuff. But day to day, in shop, 99% in coveralls with a name patch and squadron patch that was velcro to switch to a new coverall the next day. Not sexy at all!

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

Who knows what the standard for professionalism will be a couple centuries from now?

Good thing none of us will have to find out.

For the record, I think the 2230s USS Kelvin uniforms in ST09 are one of the best designs in terms of fit. It definitely looks like something that would be functional in a high-action work environment such as Starfleet.

At least the Kelvin uniforms still look like...uniforms.

And it's about time BLUE got its due as the command color!

 

[amp]

And our primitive late 20th/early 21st century notions of modesty will be a thing of the past by the 22nd century.

 

[F. King Daniel]

ENT's approach to sex and nudity was kinda like a 14 year old might write. Or a 40 year old virgin. Childish and stupid. Outdated for the time and cringeworthy.

 

[B'elanna_Torres]

That makes sense, I was 14 at the time

 

[WarpTenLizard]

As a kid I found it crass and stupid and out of place. Now that I'm an adult and no longer a virgin, I find it doubly so. The only redeeming quality is how unintentionally funny it made the show. (Archers dog funeral nightmare turning into a wet dream about T'Pol comes to mind.)

 

[B'elanna_Torres]

Then: (again, i was 14). Liked it. I found both of them attractive so it was one of the early periods in my life where I was finding my sexuality

Now: yeah, it's pretty adolescent and forced. It's poor writing but...I still like it. My junk food moment that I still enjoy.

 

[at Quark's]

It's curious to only have one character wearing a form-fitting outfit, instead of everybody

Didn't they do just that in early TNG? That is, actors had to wear costumes that were two sizes too small to create the illusion of 'form fitting' costumes. They changed the uniforms in S3, after actors started developing back problems, IIRC.

 

[Delta Vega]

People will probably walk around naked in 200/300 years
I don't see what people's hang ups are re so called sexy outfits

 

[Bry_Sinclair]

Didn't they do just that in early TNG? That is, actors had to wear costumes that were two sizes too small to create the illusion of 'form fitting' costumes. They changed the uniforms in S3, after actors started developing back problems, IIRC.

For the men. Female officers had to contend with stirrups and shoulder pads which was like (in the words of Elizabeth Dennehy) "being compressed and pulled together by a rubber band".

 

[at Quark's]

For the men. Female officers had to contend with stirrups and shoulder pads which was like (in the words of Elizabeth Dennehy) "being compressed and pulled together by a rubber band".

If you think about it, it's crazy what we make our (female) actresses go through just because we think it makes them 'attractive' on screen ... and that;s just for an actress that was generally intended to be just attractive (besides her being capable and ambitious), not even a blatant sex symbol as some other Trek characters.

 

[valkyrie013]

IF a woman ( and men) are sexy, there sexy in about anything they wear, and if you can pull off a Uniform Sexy, ( as past examples of women in uniforms when I was in.. hard to pull off cammies... but some did it! )

 

[Tenacity]

It's curious to only have one character wearing a form-fitting outfit, instead of everybody.

but only the men took their shirts off and got all sweaty. how sexist that everyone didn't do this.

 

[amp]

If you think about it, it's crazy what we make our (female) actresses go through just because we think it makes them 'attractive' on screen ... and that;s just for an actress that was generally intended to be just attractive (besides her being capable and ambitious), not even a blatant sex symbol as some other Trek characters.

Apparently, Star Trek bras are pretty famous in Hollywood. I was listening to a podcast about an old 90s sitcom, and one actress had a guest-starring role where she had to appear buxom even though in real life she was rather flat chested. She specifically mentioned that wardrobe sent her to the 'Star Trek bra lady' to get fitted for an industrial-strength brassiere.

 

[B'elanna_Torres]

People will probably walk around naked in 200/300 years
I don't see what people's hang ups are re so called sexy outfits

It has something to do with the reaction we get for wearing them