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Series 9 - Coming September 19! (And a trailer!)

I've imagined a more "street" Doctor before with possibly a troubled runaway type companion even so I'm kind of intrigued with the look here.

I don't know that it's much different than what they were doing with the second Doctor, especially if you take into account the time period (i.e. in the 50s prob not going to wear a t-shirt).

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Its not really comparable to me. The 2nd Doctor looks eccentric, the 12th Doctor looks like a lazy guy who just grabbed whatever clothes were closest to him when he woke up.
 
So what do you want to see? A white button shirt?

EDIT: And I admit, it does look close to wearing sleepwear here

I want his actual costume. You know, the "magician" stuff. The Doctor's don't dress the same, but they all have their own styles, and "average lazy saturday morning human who just woke up" isn't something the Doctor should wear.
 
He's moved past Edwardian and even Elizabethan (II) formal clothing. He's on Elizabethan (X) formal wear, which oddly looks like that. We can try to blame River Song and Captain Jack for introducing 21st century clothing to the 51st century. Or Rory on one of their adventures.
 
There really is no justification for it, other than Capaldi being a jerk. I'll be happy to see the prima donna go, hopefully sooner rather than later (although it looks like we'll be getting a Series 10 with him, at which point he'll probably only be wearing a tank top and boxers, while bullying Moffat into being his human foot stool).
 
Well, if ANYONE's gonna do it...

I don't get the a-hole vibe from Capaldi in any of his interviews. He comes off as a veteran, seasoned actor. Certainly the kind who doesn't take much crap from people, but to his credit, he HAS been doing this a very long time. I get his respect for "his" glory days of Doctor Who fandom while at the same time his desire to push some boundaries of what the Doctor is, visually or emotionally.

When it comes to his costume, it certainly does look non-Doctorey, and arguably non-initial-costumey. But it's him. It's unlike any previous Doctor, and I've gotten used to it. I do remember that when Eccleston's costume was premiered it was also met with skepticism - due mainly to the fact that it was so mainstream compared to everything that had come before. It isn't the day-off-work sorta look we see here, admittedly, and I understand why that's putting some people off. But we all know eccentrics who dress wierd, and this is just another iteration of it.

What I'd like to see is if there's any explanation for it. He'll change back from street to stage magician at some point with the red coat, and will be wearing the hoodie + holey jumper again as well (which I finally noticed that Capaldi himself wore to the read-through of "Deep Breath" long before its onscreen premiere, so yeah - it IS his!), so this could be a transitory thing. Or not. I really don't mind as long as the Doctor saves the day in a new and exciting way.

Mark
 
There really is no justification for it, other than Capaldi being a jerk. I'll be happy to see the prima donna go, hopefully sooner rather than later (although it looks like we'll be getting a Series 10 with him, at which point he'll probably only be wearing a tank top and boxers, while bullying Moffat into being his human foot stool).
Dude, what the heck are you on about?:wtf: "Justification"? For what?

You are getting bent out of shape over a costume, and making accusations of Capaldi's character that none of us have seen any evidence of, because of...a clothing choice for a character he plays on TV. Seriously?

Did you see when this supposed "jerk/primadonna" took time out (and Jenna too) to explain his character change to a young autistic girl who was upset about Matt Smith leaving? Surprising a bunch of school kids and answering their questions...in character? Does that sound like a jerk to you? And all because you want him to dress a certain way because it doesn't fit your personal opinion of what the Doctor SHOULD look like?

After David Tennant and Matt Smith costumes became expensive for fans to emulate accurately, we get an actor who dresses so fans can more easily afford it. ...Again, how does that make him a jerk?

Come on now. It's just clothes.
 
All that stuff he did was probably just good PR. If he actually cared about his job, he wouldn't be wearing clothes that scream "I don't give a c%^p about the character or the job". I mean, as actors go there are a lot worse ones when it comes to how they act, but he's the first Doctor who actor who seems to have disdain for his job. If he dislikes having to wear his actual costume so much, he should go find a new job, not try to bend the show to his will.

No actor should have that power, but at this point he has suddenly become God Emperor of Doctor who. I just want him to leave and go back to being someone only British people generally hear about. He's doing nothing but harm to Doctor Who at this point. By the time he's done the show won't have a shred of credibility or dignity left, and all because he wasn't willing to do the job he was paid to do the way he was supposed to do it. As an actor he's fine, but as a person he's easily the biggest ass to have the role.
 
I've seen both those clips and it instantly made me like him as a person. It's quite endearing how he stays in character around kids. He does seem like a nice guy from what I've seen. Which is why I'm really hoping that I will eventually like his Doctor.
 
Alright, then I expect you're not going to watch Series 9 since you dislike Capaldi so much (and Clara too?) Because honestly, this just seems to be a nerd hissy fit. Clothing choices mean diddly squat about Capaldi's personal character, and it also means nothing with regards to him caring about the role or show. He's been a fan of this show since he was 8 years old. It's obvious that you have misjudged the man.
 
No, its obvious he's an egotistic ass who wouldn't do the job he was paid for unless he got to get his wardrobe from the back of his own closet. I'll watch the show because I'm not going to skip Doctor Who (I watched all of the 7th Doctor's era, and the last two seasons of that were pretty atrocious). I can enjoy the 12th Doctor and still think Capaldi is an ass. Eventually he'll be gone back to realitive obscurity, and the show won't be saddled to his every whim. Until then, I'll just grit my teeth and hope Moffat can at least force Capaldi to actually follow the scripts and do his job without totally destroying the role.
 
Well in fairness Smith got his outfit from the back of his closet ;)

Really I don't see the problem, sure I'd rather Capaldi looked a bit more doctory, but he does look like the Doctor. Much like Eccleston it almost isn't so much about the outfit as it is about the silhouette, I think we all need to get some perspective and remember that the look people are going on about was in a preview minisode, and frankly I don't see many fifty something guys dressed like that. It isn't much of an outfit but it does fit in with the modern Who look in that it's v mid/late 20th century. In classic Who it was all about the Victorian/Edwardian look, whereas in Nu Who it's all very second half of the 20th Century. From Eccleston's U-Boat captain to Tennant's spiv/70s cop to Smith's 1950's professor and now Capaldi's mod/punk look. To be honest the odd one out is Smith's 7b look because he reverted back to the Victorian/Edwardian

And I think name calling a professional actor just because he had some say in his outfit's bang out of order, you'd think he was blanking fans, signing his autograph with accompanying swearwords and spoilering every episode on his on-line blog!

Plus any outfit has a long way to go until it reaches the depths plumbed by a certain Doctor's outfit...
 
Well, basing the Doctor's attire on hoiw easy it is to cosplay might just be the stupidest reason for a costume ever. It also doesn't justify how horrible the costume is, especially in the context of the show and the character.
as a fan of the 6th Doctor you should think twice before calling a costume horrible. ;)

I still think its stupid. At this point, they're not dressing as The Doctor. They're dressing like basically any random person on their day off. Capaldi putting on jeans does not mean kids wearing jeans are now dressed as The Doctor. He's an alien, he's not supposed to dress like he stole some of Rory's clothes he left in the tARDIS. The Doctor has gone 50 years without caring about whether kids can dress as him, so I don't consider that a valid reason for anything. Besides, it mostly seems like Capaldi is a bit of an ass, and just wanted to wear clothes that are easier to put on/more comfortable to lounge around in. Its stupid, and it gives me a very poor opinion of Capaldi. He's basically bullying the show into letting him wear whatever he had at the back of his closet, or at least the equivalent of that, regardless of the fact it goes against the character and, in my opinion, ruins The Doctor's credibility more than a rainbow coat or a munch of question marks ever could.

He's the first Doctor Who actor who seems like a gigantic a-hole. Even when I hated the 7th Doctor, I thought McCoy was a nice guy and a decent actor. Capaldi seems to have a huge ego and be a very self centered person, and the fact that the people making the show are basically letting him go wild sucks. Colin Baker wasn't allowed to say what he got to wear, and (as much as I love the coat) he had legitimate reasons to want different clothes. Capaldi sure as hell shouldn't be making those decisions. Its really soured me to the 12th Doctor, although I won't miss Series 9. I will be very happy when he regenerates, though. I hope its something stupid, like the 7th Doctor's medical malpractice death or the 6th Doctor's head banging into the TARDIS console.

the Doctor doesn't care if kids can dress like him, Capaldi does. and yes, he is an alien. what, should the Doctor exit the Tardis in regal Gallifreyan attire for each adventure?

so basically you are butthurt that Colin had zero input and Capaldi, according to you has 100%.

Its not really comparable to me. The 2nd Doctor looks eccentric, the 12th Doctor looks like a lazy guy who just grabbed whatever clothes were closest to him when he woke up.
both are eccentric. or both are lazy.

There really is no justification for it, other than Capaldi being a jerk. I'll be happy to see the prima donna go, hopefully sooner rather than later (although it looks like we'll be getting a Series 10 with him, at which point he'll probably only be wearing a tank top and boxers, while bullying Moffat into being his human foot stool).
:rolleyes:

All that stuff he did was probably just good PR. If he actually cared about his job, he wouldn't be wearing clothes that scream "I don't give a c%^p about the character or the job". I mean, as actors go there are a lot worse ones when it comes to how they act, but he's the first Doctor who actor who seems to have disdain for his job. If he dislikes having to wear his actual costume so much, he should go find a new job, not try to bend the show to his will.

No actor should have that power, but at this point he has suddenly become God Emperor of Doctor who. I just want him to leave and go back to being someone only British people generally hear about. He's doing nothing but harm to Doctor Who at this point. By the time he's done the show won't have a shred of credibility or dignity left, and all because he wasn't willing to do the job he was paid to do the way he was supposed to do it. As an actor he's fine, but as a person he's easily the biggest ass to have the role.
wow. just wow.

No, its obvious he's an egotistic ass who wouldn't do the job he was paid for unless he got to get his wardrobe from the back of his own closet. I'll watch the show because I'm not going to skip Doctor Who (I watched all of the 7th Doctor's era, and the last two seasons of that were pretty atrocious). I can enjoy the 12th Doctor and still think Capaldi is an ass. Eventually he'll be gone back to realitive obscurity, and the show won't be saddled to his every whim. Until then, I'll just grit my teeth and hope Moffat can at least force Capaldi to actually follow the scripts and do his job without totally destroying the role.
Capaldi has been going off script? source?
 
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