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Sequel/Transformers 2: we're in trouble

yeah, Orci and Kurtzman seemed a little bit p-od at the gold tooth. interesting. my respect for Bay is falling really fast. and it wasn't that high before.


You actually had some before?

Outside some of the lameness of Pearl Harbor, I've really enjoyed most of his movies, especially The Rock, the Bad Boys movies, Armageddon, Transformers, and even The Island. Transformers 2 was a little disappointing for me because I thought the story and acting weren't as good as any of those films.

EDIT - Ha! I just realized I mentioned every single movie he directed.
 
I liked the first Transformers film, but this sequel was just terrible. It's as if he thought all the elements of the first film that didn't work were the best parts, and built the sequel around them.
 
Not a word about NuTrek?
With a $13 million weekend, Disney and Pixar Animation’s “Up” became the year’s top-grossing film domestically at $250.2 million. It surpassed Paramount’s “Star Trek,” which did $3.6 million over the weekend to hit a $246.2 million total.
Star Trek is a solid box office success. It didn't break any records, but to suggest that record-breaking is the standard for success is just ridiculous.
 
Not a word about NuTrek?
With a $13 million weekend, Disney and Pixar Animation’s “Up” became the year’s top-grossing film domestically at $250.2 million. It surpassed Paramount’s “Star Trek,” which did $3.6 million over the weekend to hit a $246.2 million total.
Star Trek is a solid box office success. It didn't break any records, but to suggest that record-breaking is the standard for success is just ridiculous.

Damned shifting goalposts--I feel like I'm watching a Harry Potter movie!
 
I just read the MSNBC report.

Not a word about the NuTrek film as a comparison.

While NuTrek is important to the posters here, it was never going to be the all time blockbuster that was anticipated.

The dust from Transfomers has hidden your flick.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/31596429/ns/entertainment-movies/

Comparing Transformers films to Trek is what you and your kind were doing before the FIRST movie, when you were screeching about how Transformers sucked, so Trek would too.

Now it's how the SECOND transformers movie sucked, so the second Trek movie will suck.

Oh and they're not talking about.

Except where they say its the #2 grossing movie of the year.

Not that you care. You're fine with it.

Good for trek.
 
Oh come on. Yes there's a thing called potential - but there's also a thing called "making a movie for a particular age group". Transformers is a movie for teenage boys. And it can't really be a surprise to anyone that teenage boys like gross humour and find characters created to be stereotypes funny.

I don't like movies like that, but I'm not going to criticise anyone else for watching them, or anyone for making them. I'm not their audience. I think the American Pie movies are stupid too. I wouldn't watch them, but I'm not at all surprised that they are successful.

Same with Transformers.

Although I'm sure teenage boys get a kick out of Transformers, it's really for the 30ish male crowd (like myself) who grew up with Transformers. We all have jobs and alot of disposable income (we're not caught up as much in family/medical/house bills) and will gladly flock to the theaters. I've already Transformers 2 twice, and I'll probably see it again next weekend!

Oddly enough, American Pie was for us too. We were that age back then!
 
Oh come on. Yes there's a thing called potential - but there's also a thing called "making a movie for a particular age group". Transformers is a movie for teenage boys. And it can't really be a surprise to anyone that teenage boys like gross humour and find characters created to be stereotypes funny.

I don't like movies like that, but I'm not going to criticise anyone else for watching them, or anyone for making them. I'm not their audience. I think the American Pie movies are stupid too. I wouldn't watch them, but I'm not at all surprised that they are successful.

Same with Transformers.

Although I'm sure teenage boys get a kick out of Transformers, it's really for the 30ish male crowd (like myself) who grew up with Transformers. We all have jobs and alot of disposable income (we're not caught up as much in family/medical/house bills) and will gladly flock to the theaters. I've already Transformers 2 twice, and I'll probably see it again next weekend!

Oddly enough, American Pie was for us too. We were that age back then!

Same for those of us in our mid to late 20's.
 
LOL - I'm pretty darned sure Transformers wasn't made for ME, a fifty year old woman!!

Not a Bay fan - although I admit he blows shit up real good - but I don't care one iota if Transformers 2 makes tons more money than XI. Trek did very well financially, it's a certified hit, and T2 was always destined to make megabucks. The one's success doesn''t diminish the other. In fact, a ton of the box office for T2 goes into the coffers of Paramount Pictures, a wholey owned subsidiary of Viacom Inc...you know, Paramount, the company that owns and makes...Star Trek movies.

We're getting more Trek, so I'm happy.
 
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If that's Orci and Kurtzman's idea of a big blockbuster sequel....

We're in huge trouble.

Transfomers, Revenge of the Fallen. Worst 'big' film this past decade. Awful garbage. Boring, over-long, a giant mess, horrible editing, pathetic acting and script and terrible pacing. That's two and a half hours of my life I'd like back.

Trek 2 could be in trouble. Hopefully it's mostly Bay's fault.

Really. I quite liked the movie. Better then the first.
 
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