into the Dominion, find the WH and get back to DS9. Or at least, gotten ahold of Sisko and fought their way through Dominion hordes to the WH.
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Seems Voyager should have made a right turn
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into the Dominion, find the WH and get back to DS9. Or at least, gotten ahold of Sisko and fought their way through Dominion hordes to the WH.
Voyager was stranded half a year after the Dominion's destruction of the USS Odyssey and New Bajor.
I think aiming for an artificial wormhole claimed by an alien agressor and praying that it's still open after decades of flight isn't the wisest course of action. Best to fly toward home.
Not to mention that Janeway had a very good reason to think that the wormhole wouldn't be there for much longer. After all, she had set on that fateful three-hour tour from DS9, a station commanded by a chap who had just sworn that he would blow the wormhole to republic come at the earliest sign of Dominion aggression. So Janeway's only hope of getting home through that route was to believe in Dominion goodwill and politeness. As said, not a very good bet.
Besides, Janeway would have won at most a decade by taking that route. Out of seven decades - who cares? The real hope of getting home hinged on serendipitous findings en route. And while looking for those, the best thing to do would be to inch toward home, not toward some hostile alien empire.
Timo Saloniemi
Besides, Janeway would have won at most a decade by taking that route. Out of seven decades - who cares? The real hope of getting home hinged on serendipitous findings en route. And while looking for those, the best thing to do would be to inch toward home, not toward some hostile alien empire.
Timo Saloniemi
OTOH, she should have equally assumed that the "normal" way home would at SOME point include a run-in with the Borg - and at THAT time the Borg were still one big horrible menace rather than the Queen-led wimps they were post-FC. I would rather think that the wormhole would be too risky a variable to set a course towards.
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^ He almost places them in the Gamma Quadrant.
Personally I don't agree with many of his assumptions but that's neither here nor there. The AQ terminus of the wormhole would be where the number 4 is, which refers to Deep Space 9.
Personally I don't agree with many of his assumptions but that's neither here nor there. The AQ terminus of the wormhole would be where the number 4 is, which refers to Deep Space 9.
That's in Star Trek VI where Sulu says he's been patrolling Beta Quadrant, and then Praxis explodes and the shockwave hits Excelsior; so at least the Klingon's "key energy producing facility" used to be in Beta Quadrant.
The map would benefit if the Klingon and Romulan Empires were on the other side of Federation space (toward BQ), and then all that shifted to the right so that Federation space borders approach BQ with the Romulans and Klingons nearly entirely in the BQ.
Also, Federation space seems a little too cushy, and I thought the GQ wormhole terminus was below Dominion space, not above it....
Also, Federation space seems a little too cushy, and I thought the GQ wormhole terminus was below Dominion space, not above it....
Oh, right... forgot... *shakes head*
Not sure this helps... but wasn't Voyager flung 70 years away? And didn't the female founder say they didn't expect Odo to get to the Omarian Nebula for 200? If Voyager was 70 years away at warp, then the 200 years would logically be at warp speed too... and the Omarian Nebula is in the GQ, in Dominion space, so from that angle, the GQ terminus to the wormhold may not have been the best way... but I'm speculating.
You can't really compare what the Female Founder said and how far Voyager was from the AQ.
^ Hard to see how they would keep tabs on Odo prior to the discovery of the wormhole. It does seem that the Founders just threw out the 100 and just sat back to see what would happen. It doesn't really make sense for them to do that. I know the DS9 relaunch gives an explanation for that but it would have been nice if the show actually had Odo really probe into why a race that is so anti-solid and concerned about separate changelings been a part of the link would just cast a 100 into the void.
I agree with the map thing, I found this one a few minutes ago:
http://www.stdimension.org/Cartography/Source/map_voyroute.jpg
And it doesn't seem like cutting through the GQ would have been a good idea.
As for my other point, it just seems really odd that the Founders said Odo was 200 years early... its kinda bizarre, but it not really a good unit of distance, I suppose. Are told when the 100 were sent away?
The Dominion shouldn't really, IMHO, have come up in VOY, their respective places were far enough apart... then again, I would have liked VOY better if they had...
And there's always VOY... Flesh and Blood I think?
http://www.stdimension.org/Cartography/Source/map_voyroute.jpg
And it doesn't seem like cutting through the GQ would have been a good idea.
As for my other point, it just seems really odd that the Founders said Odo was 200 years early... its kinda bizarre, but it not really a good unit of distance, I suppose. Are told when the 100 were sent away?
The Dominion shouldn't really, IMHO, have come up in VOY, their respective places were far enough apart... then again, I would have liked VOY better if they had...
And there's always VOY... Flesh and Blood I think?
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http://home.att.net/~tomjlee/startrek/map.html
into the Dominion, find the WH and get back to DS9. Or at least, gotten ahold of Sisko and fought their way through Dominion hordes to the WH.
That map is idiotic and way too exaggerated. The UFP was in its first war with the Klingon empire when maximum warp was under 1000c. At that speed, it would have taken--at maximum warp--fifty years just to get to Qo'nos and back.
The entire size of UFP, Klingon, Zenkethe, Breen, Cardassian, Shelliak and other sundry empires, collectives and whatnot would probably fit into the circle numbered "9".
Also, we know that the Excelsior explored a good chunk of space within the Beta quadrant (which the UFP abuts) We also have solid speculation that the Romulan Star Empire is mostly in the Beta quad.
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