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Spoilers Season 3 Comic-Con reveals

The 3rd season of Star Trek Discovery take place in 33th century. Danial live in the time period of the 30th century. So the events that are seen in Star Trek Discovery 3rd season, took place after Danial had died and all the events that had taken place before and during Danial time, had not change.
 
The 3rd season of Star Trek Discovery take place in 33th century. Danial live in the time period of the 30th century. So the events that are seen in Star Trek Discovery 3rd season, took place after Danial had died and all the events that had taken place before and during Danial time, had not change.
Daniels is from the 31st, discovery is in the 32nd.

Other than that you’re right
 
Daniels is from the 31st, discovery is in the 32nd.

Other than that you’re right

Even though the third season comes after Daniels, it does seem a little off. I mean, we know that the future portions of Shockwave happened around 3052. And we know Discovery arrives in 3187. This means a potential gap of around 135 years between uber-Utopian Federation and the decline witnessed by Burnham and the Discovery crew.

135 years really isn't all that much time in the grand scheme of things. Even today, it's really just two average lifetimes. Vulcans and other long-lived races routinely live longer in the Trekverse. Yet when Book talks about the Federation, he makes it sound like some sort of distant myth - as if it began crumbling much further in the past.
 
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Okay.. BACK on topic ...
Well were dealing with a federation in decline.. yay..
Same questions as before then..
1. When did the decline start..
2. Why?
3. Is it broken up in to individual feifdoms? like 30 kingdoms where federation space was??
4. what happened with the bad guys? Klingon, Romulan, Redheads... er Tholians?
5. What technology exists? Slipstream? Time Travel?? Apparently there some faction will be after the Disco Fever for the Mushroom drive...
6. Was the federation invaded or conquored? Is that why information from the past is so valuable? as in Calypso
Only question they ansered is that Burnam is still the Messiah.. and that the Federation is only 6 worlds..
 
It was actually very easy to keep the different series separate from one another; it was too much work for the writers to keep abreast of developments that were going on just across on the studio lot. Indeed, RDM probably would have left Trek after DS9 had he been better informed of the culture in the writers' room--the very big facts about the different series went unnoticed. Perhaps with fewer episodes, Picard and Discovery could (though arguably should not) have a high degree of coordination.

I don't disagree with you, but the 800-year difference isn't conductive to linking the two series that closely. Michelle Paradise and Michael Chabon do coordinate with each other to make sure they don't step on each other's toes, but it probably only ends up amounting to broad strokes, such as "This alien species lives on this planet. This area of space has that particular item."

They could perhaps namedrop someone like Picard, and hint at his role when Romulus was destroyed as being pivotal for a eventual membership of the Romulans in the Federation somewhere down the line.

I could see that.
 
I don't disagree with you, but the 800-year difference isn't conductive to linking the two series that closely. Michelle Paradise and Michael Chabon do coordinate with each other to make sure they don't step on each other's toes, but it probably only ends up amounting to broad strokes, such as "This alien species lives on this planet. This area of space has that particular item."

If they do plan to bring back Dax (which i think is a bad idea) they might have to coordinate on that a bit.
 
Even though the third season comes after Daniels, it does seem a little off. I mean, we know that the future portions of Shockwave happened around 3052. And we know Discovery arrives in 3187. This means a potential gap of around 135 years between uber-Utopian Federation and the decline witnessed by Burnham and the Discovery crew.

135 years really isn't all that much time in the grand scheme of things. Even today, it's really just two average lifetimes. Vulcans and other long-lived races routinely live longer in the Trekverse. Yet when Book talks about the Federation, he makes it sound like some sort of distant myth - as if it began crumbling much further in the past.
I'm betting (read: hoping) its a situation like Shockwave where Discovery being in the future fucked things up.
 
The Federation collapsed and everything went south cause Burnham left, of course ;)
Like Jesus. Her return has been expected for centuries. Each year she gets a bump. Season 1 a hero. Season 2 a Angel. Season 3 it is Jesus and season 4 it is God. She will finally be offered command only to say,What does God need with a starship! Then turns a energy being even more powerful than the Q. Jason
 
This has always been my problem with Discovery beyond the crappy writing/pacing, it's clearly written by Twitter Blue Checkmark Liberals who think Obama/Clinton was the peak of human civilisation and MSNBC and the NYT are the peak of political discourse and can not conceive really of any society or discourse that goes beyond that.

The fact that Discovery S2 went full into flat out cheering Liberal hawk interventionist regime change championed by the likes of Hillary Clinton and Samantha Power absolutely confirmed by suspicions from the lack of vision in S1.

Majel Barrett said at one point that Roddenberry sympathised with Communism and I honestly think that is very likely the case probably starting in the 70s when Marxist analysis had a resurgence in US progressive activism when you look at the politics of TMP and TNG, there was clearly a Automated Luxury Communist outlook to those works that clearly went beyond Liberalism and if you read the TMP novelisation, you can see Roddenberry also had very radical views on gender and sexuality as well which again, went well beyond Liberalism.

I knew S3 was going to be a fallen Federation/Rebuild plot line, because it plays straight into this delusional worldview that moderate Liberals have that Trump is some wild aberration and uniquely awful President and the US has collapsed under him and we need to restore the US to it's former perfect moral good glory which it was before 2016.

As you say, It should have been about expanding the Federation and even going beyond what even the Federation was. One of the really interesting ideas in TMP novelisation is the New Human evolution that I've always wanted mainline Trek to explore.
What makes it delusional is that the US was good or functional before Trump. Under Obama you had the expansion of the war on terror into multiple countries like Yemen, Libya, Somalia which has resulted in the US basically supporting genocide and turning Libya from the country with the highest HDI in Africa into one where women and black people are sold in open slave markets, you had cops killing black people all over the country and getting away with it, Wall Street becoming richer than ever while inequality and the Opioid epidemic spiralled out of control, ICE massively expanded doing the same crap it's doing now but because Obama nobody bothered reporting on it, the crackdown on Whistleblowers and Journalists, expansion of Drone Strikes, DAPL and cops literally blowing the arm off a protester with a grenade etc etc.

Don't even get me started on Bush Jr, Bush Jr was a worse President than Trump in pretty much every conceivable material way, who is responsible for millions of deaths and displacement but now has been rehabilitated by MSNBC, NYT and gets to hang out with the Liberal elite because he wasn't an idiot on Twitter.

That is the real crime of Trump as well, it's not that he's a racist, narcissistic sociopath or is throwing people in camps, it's that this giant moron somehow became President over KWEEN and he's an idiot on Twitter. If Trump was well spoken I doubt much of the liberal media class would have all that much problem with him.

The US was a garbage fire before Trump, The Libyan intervention did more damage to US Geopolitical standing than anything Trump has done and the US is going to be a garbage fire after Trump unless, oh look, some sort of radical positive vision to deal that goes beyond the standard discourse is embraced by whatever Democrat wins the next election, something that should be shown in a certain... Sci-fi franchise?
Your posts barely have anything to do with the show and are almost entirely about politics. Take it to Misc. or TNZ. You've been warned about this before.
 
135 years really isn't all that much time in the grand scheme of things. Even today, it's really just two average lifetimes. Vulcans and other long-lived races routinely live longer in the Trekverse. Yet when Book talks about the Federation, he makes it sound like some sort of distant myth - as if it began crumbling much further in the past.
In 1884,we had no spaceflight, no powered airplanes, several empires that are now quite distant already, the statue of liberty didn't exist before, neither did local anesthesia. I think we would refer to those times in a similar way.
 

I really don't like that premise, but, I do like the idea of Discovery being the beacon of hope for an uncertain future.

What I'm really interested in is what happens once they arrive. With Discovery, essentially, being classified information when it left the 23rd century, is there a point some time between when it left and arrives that it was declassified?

In other words, that man who Burnham is talking to in the trailer; does he, at some point, find out about Discovery and Burnham through declassified information and go to meet them upon arrival?
 
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Well, he seems surprised by this weird woman wearing a Starfleet badge, so he isn't all that informed!

Discovery and the spore drive were classified for their entire 23rd century existence as far as we can tell. First there was the war, and then there was no need to know. So the end of S2 would not pose much of a challenge for a cover-up team. There'd only be that one already well-guarded folder to delete, and no doubt another folder full of well-prepared backdoors for the crew, both to hide what they would have been doing during S1/2, and in preparation for their possible demise. Just click "execute" and then "delete" and you might be done for all eternity, with nothing whatsoever remaining to be declassified.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Anyone think Earth might be in a primitive state but the Federation is still out there along with human colonies. Earth did Brexit and regressed but you still have tech from the old days around. Jason
 
Or whoever disagreed with the Federation vented it out on Earth (as this is what everybody does anyway) but then left it at that.

Timo Saloniemi
 
Omega particle explosion destroyed vast swathes of sub-space and warp drive is gone. But here comes the Discovery with her spore drive! Makes her one hot commodity.
 
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