Season 11 slated for autumn 2018
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That doesn't surprise me, unfortunately. I figured Spring was too unrealistic.
It was never going to be any earlier given they don't start shooting until November.
Just remember this though. If Moffat hadn't agreed to come back for Series 10, there would have been nearly three years between new episodes. (And Capaldi's Regeneration could have ended up happening off-screen.)
Wasn't this already announced a few months ago?
I don't think so.
Not showing Capaldi regenerate into Witthaker would have been a marketing desaster!
Why in the world would it have taken the show THREE YEARS to come back? That doesn't amke sense on any level!
There does seem to be a pattern of showrunners being announced two years before their first seasons actually start airing, this is consistent with RTD, Moffat and Chibnall. Add a one year break Chibnall wanted between finishing Broadchurch and starting Doctor Who, and there's you're three years. BBC had looked into temporary showrunners who would have just been in charge during the transition between Moffat and Chibnall, we know Toby Whithouse was one of them, but they turned it down. So, had Moffat not agreed to do one more season, we could well have indeed ended up with a three year gap of no Doctor Who.
Because there wouldn't have been a Series 10 as Toby Whithouse turned down producing it on an interim basis and Chibnall, whom the BBC wanted as the long-term producer, wouldn't have been available until now anyway due to Broadchurch. IE., we'd have gone from "The Husbands of River Song" as Moffat's swansong at the end of 2015 to the start of series 10 in the autumn of 2018 without any Doctor Who. Whether we'd have had a new Doctor or Peter Capaldi would have returned for this alt-Series 10 is a question that can't be answered, but I think it probably would have been a new Doctor, even if Capaldi wanted to return, so that the series would start with a clean slate.
In other words, what The Wormhole said.
Works for me.
And me.
In other words, I'm dumbfounded that there are so few contenders for a producing gig for Doctor Who, one of the flagship shows of the nation. Its bad enough we had a single year gap (without wanting to sound like Levine, but its definitely not very acceptable, even now), to think we'd have two or more is flabbergasting. It boggles the mind. And then I read the other day, that Capaldi originally did regenerate at the end of The Doctor Falls and that Moffat also did this year's Christmas Special because Chibnall didn't want to do one...
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I've gained a little respect for Moffat here. Remarkable, and a huge shame on the BBC.
I can't believe I'm saying this, but I've gained a little respect for Moffat here. Remarkable, and a huge shame on the BBC.
The problem is you need someone who's willing to give up their life for 3-5 years in a way producing other TV shows doesn't require, while having abuse constantly being hurled at you by fat greasy basement-dwellers who think they can do your job better than you can.
So you need someone with a stellar track record in the industry who is also a massive Doctor Who fan. Whether Chibnall turns out to be a good choice or not, in practical terms it was him or Gatiss and he made it clear he didn't want it.
If Nicholas Meyer's hiring for TWOK ever proved anything, is that you don't have to be a massive fan, but you do need to respect the material, while applying your own spin. I doubt ANY of the producers following Verity Lambert in the '60's were huge fans of the show before going in (Especially when it was still considered a mere children's program only), but they still did, for the most part, take the material seriously, and in some cases they became big fans on the way, like Sherwin and more famously, Dicks and Holmes. Even Hinchcliffe was the biggest nerd of the world, but he still did his job, respecting what the program was about. Why can't we have that anymore?
But coming in as stop gap for one year doesn't really given the producer/show runner any really chance to make their mark. They either have to stick with what's already in place and basically carry on some-one else s work or make their changes knowing they'll be tossed out when a long term show runner comes in.
And it's one thing to take a multi-year gig and the job security that it can generally entail, versus coming on a temporary basis and risk missing out on another opportunity.
Oh and Nicholas Myer isn't really a good example. Film production is different kettle of fish in that the producer etc etc are usually only on-board for a single production (the particular movie being worked out).
You're talking about a completely different time. Whoever is in charge these days has to be a Performer as well as a Producer, something Moffat wasn't ever fully comfortable at in the way that came naturally to RTD. You didn't have to travel the world promoting the show or stand up in front of 5000 people in Hall H or go bowling with Chris Hardwick* or any of a 100 other things.
*http://nerdist.com/its-here-team-doctor-who-on-all-star-celebrity-bowling/
To add to what StCoop said, it's also a job that doesn't pay as well as other producing jobs would.
I think it's entirely possible that Whithouse or someone else might have done a one-off season, but the BBC would have had to pony up more money to the producer to make happen. And that's not their style.
I'm not in the entertainment industry, but I can understand why a producer would avoid becoming a Doctor Who showrunner. It's a lot of pressure with very little upside. You'll never see a decent portion of the profits because the studio can easily replace you at any time, and you'll be second-guessed by every twelve-year-old with an internet connection.
Yep. The big dream is to create an original show that is popular with the public and comes with great profit-sharing on the back end. You won't get that on Doctor Who.
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