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Scotland Leaving the UK: America's Opinion

I'm more interested in what our European allies have to say on the matter and ultimately, if Scotland did leave the Union, the future of Northern Ireland? Would that be integrated into Eire or become a free state? And also, the future of what remains of the UK regarding the European Union.

a) Ireland doesn't want Northern Ireland (majority view)
b) Northern Ireland doesn't want to be anywhere except part of the Union.(majority view)

That and the Republic simply can't afford it, the UK can afford us and the EU gives additional financial aid for our upkeep, Eire would have none of that and can barely afford itself.

Neither could NI afford to be an independent state in itself, so there's no need, no call for and no intentions of things changing no matter what happens to Scotland.

But on the topic of public opinion, have their been any updated polls to show what percentage of Scottish voters want indepenence? the last figures I saw put the figure rather high in the 'no' catagory.
 
^ IIRC, support for independence is in the 1/4 to 1/3 range.


a) Ireland doesn't want Northern Ireland (majority view)
The majority of the Republic of Ireland wants a united Ireland. Fortunately, the majority of that majority is content to wait for a majority of Northern Island to support unification of their own free will.


This does kind of mirror the situation of Canada & Quebec though, but on the other hand Quebec never was its own country.
Neither was Scotland, not in the modern industrial/unified economy and government sense.
 
The U.K. is becoming increasingly Muslim. What does it matter?

Your posts are becoming increasingly stupid and offensive. What do they matter?

I wish I could put a burqa over your posts, but alas, I'll just have to settle for telling you that this kind of off-topic, drive-by, inflammatory post is considered trolling and will be infracted accordingly if you keep it up.

Be well.
 
As a long subjugated and abused people, the Scotch have every right to leave England, a German-run monarchy where both men and women wear pants nowadays, and where people are more likely to eat a vegetarian curry than organ meat.

The major issue is whether the Scotch should take possession of their part of England's nuclear arsenal, and if so, will they ally themselves with the Irish and Welsh to lay waste to the English countryside and and restore true royal blood to the throne, as the current lineage has withered down to the mitochondrial DNA of an Indian housemaid being usurped by the mitochondrial DNA of a British Airways flight attendant. Only by cloning the recently recovered DNA of Richard III can a just and authentic royal take the throne, and only then will Brittany be freed from the grip of French oppression, and the Holy Land liberated from the threat of the Musselmen and put back under Christian control.
 
The U.K. is becoming increasingly Muslim. What does it matter?

Only UKIP can save us!! :devil:

Re Scotland, I hope they vote No for a variety of reasons, including that I want to see Alec Salmond fall flat on his face.

I'm not Scottish, so therefore I don't have a real understanding of a lot of the issues that some Scots have, although obviously I understand them on some level.

What concerns me is that the current notion of 'independance' seems little more than a husband telling his wife he wants to leave her...but he wants them to still share the same house, still share the upbrining of the kids, still have conjugal relations and still go on holiday together. He just wants to be able to tell people he's divorced.

They want to keep the Queen, keep the pound, join NATO and the EU (or rather rejoin them since they're already members).

I'm also bemused by the SNP manifesto for an independant Scotland, as they're selling an independant SNP led Scotland which is not the same thing. You do get the feeling that if the vote is yes Salmond will delcare himself Lord Protector (I'm joking of course but you do feel certain members of the SNP feel they'll become a one part state.)

If the vote is yes then I fear it's going to be a mess. As was pointed out a week or so ago there's a general election in 2015, and if the independance vote is yes in 2014, the actual split will not occur until 2016, meaning that in 2015 the election may be decided by Scottish MPs who'll vanish off the books a year later!

I admire that all three Westminster parites have said "No you can't have the pound" and even the EU are now suggesting it won't be that easy for an independant Scotland to join the EU.

Does anyone know what the rules are re the vote? I'd hate for the decision to be made either way if its 49%/51%, and what if there's a low turn out?
 
You mean it's not really from CBS? :eek: :rommie:

It actually is, a bit more research shows that it is a screenshot from the Craig Ferguson Late Late Show, supposedly riffing on his view of Europe as a Scot. :lol:

It must be drawn by an American staffer though, because if it were really drawn by a Scot they would have not have failed to draw a line between England and Wales, when declaring the English wankers, and i've never heard a Brit pluralise Lego before either.
That's pretty funny. I assumed it was a screencap that somebody modified. :rommie:
 
Does anyone know what the rules are re the vote? I'd hate for the decision to be made either way if its 49%/51%, and what if there's a low turn out?
Of all the elections to be apathetic about actually voting in... the one for possible independence probably ain't it. :rommie:
 
For the most part, I doubt the average American, or the US government would really care one way or another if Scotland left the UK.

I doubt if they'll leave the UK because it's only going to cost them more money. But, if they want to, sure thing, go for it.

Mr Awe
 
The U.K. is becoming increasingly Muslim. What does it matter?

Your posts are becoming increasingly stupid and offensive. What do they matter?

I wish I could put a burqa over your posts, but alas, I'll just have to settle for telling you that this kind of off-topic, drive-by, inflammatory post is considered trolling and will be infracted accordingly if you keep it up.

Be well.
"Britain may be an Islamic nation within 20 years"
http://communities.washingtontimes....ritain-may-be-islamic-nation-within-20-years/

So, you see: I'm not making this up. But I understand that these boards aren't a democracy, that someone running them saw fit to make you a moderator on them and that I don't pay your salary. At the same time, it's not uncommon either, for a moderator to let their "responsibilities" go to their head, for whatever ill-conceived reason. So, there is no point in taking any argument to "the wall," with you, as you're going to do whatever you want to about it, anyway. At least most of my opinions aren't arbitrary, or entirely baseless - and as such, are not intended to be inflammatory. Be Well.
 
From the most recent UK census

Despite falling numbers Christianity remains the largest religion in England and Wales in 2011. Muslims are the next biggest religious group and have grown in the last decade. Meanwhile the proportion of the population who reported they have no religion has now reached a quarter of the population.

• In the 2011 Census, Christianity was the largest religion, with 33.2 million people (59.3 per cent of the population). The second largest religious group were Muslims with 2.7 million people (4.8 per cent of the population).
• 14.1 million people, around a quarter of the population in England and Wales, reported they have no religion in 2011.
• The religion question was the only voluntary question on the 2011 census and 7.2 per cent of people did not answer the question.
• Between 2001 and 2011 there has been a decrease in people who identify as Christian (from 71.7 per cent to 59.3 per cent) and an increase in those reporting no religion (from 14.8 per cent to 25.1 per cent). There were increases in the other main religious group categories, with the number of Muslims increasing the most (from 3.0 per cent to 4.8 per cent).

What this says to me is not that the UK is becoming more Muslim, but the UK is becoming more secular (I realise that might be even scarier to the Christian right in the US)
 
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Right, because the mentioned large cohort of young Britons who've outgrown Christianity are totally going to be fine with the Sharia-ization of Parliament. Secularists, of the kind who invented modern representative government, aren't going to vote against that at all. What beautiful, overwhelming logic.

picard-facepalm.jpg

 
The U.K. is becoming increasingly Muslim. What does it matter?

Your posts are becoming increasingly stupid and offensive. What do they matter?

I wish I could put a burqa over your posts, but alas, I'll just have to settle for telling you that this kind of off-topic, drive-by, inflammatory post is considered trolling and will be infracted accordingly if you keep it up.

Be well.
"Britain may be an Islamic nation within 20 years"
http://communities.washingtontimes....ritain-may-be-islamic-nation-within-20-years/

So, you see: I'm not making this up. But I understand that these boards aren't a democracy, that someone running them saw fit to make you a moderator on them and that I don't pay your salary. At the same time, it's not uncommon either, for a moderator to let their "responsibilities" go to their head, for whatever ill-conceived reason. So, there is no point in taking any argument to "the wall," with you, as you're going to do whatever you want to about it, anyway. At least most of my opinions aren't arbitrary, or entirely baseless - and as such, are not intended to be inflammatory. Be Well.

Far be it from me to dispute the completely unbiased findings of a extreme right-wing Christian-ish brainwashing cult-owned paper founded by a self-proclaimed messiah/convicted felon, which would never have any reason to engage in anti-Muslim fearmongering... Nah, I'm just kidding, it's bullshit.

Even if your article was true (and it's not), your post was still problematic because it has nothing to do with the topic of Scottish independence, you did a drive-by without elaborating on your point, it was inflammatory rhetoric meant to provoke a harsh response from others, and it's frankly typical of the kind of offensive nonsense you've been posting for a while now, which is why it draws more attention than someone who did this for the first time would. It's not your dumb opinion that's the problem, it's the way you chose to express it. If you had gone into depth about why you felt that way and actually tied it into the topic, then I or someone else would simply refute it on the facts. But that's not what you did.

But by all means, don't take my advice and continue posting more of the same.
 
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