Guess the studios should stop exploiting writers!
SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike
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Guess the studios should stop exploiting writers!
The writers got what they wanted—and left the good skin-&-teeth crowd to fend for themselves I see…
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So much for solidarity between the unions...
What the hell are you talking about?
The actors didn't start striking when the writers started, they started when the deal they previously negotiated ended. The actors didn't strike out of solidarity with the writers, they wanted a better deal.
The writers got a deal they liked, so they stopped striking.
I'd think part of having a deal in place also means you got to go back to work.
The writers got a deal they liked, so they stopped striking.
I'd think part of having a deal in place also means you got to go back to work.
The WGA even tried to have a provision in the deal that would have allowed writers to stay on solidarity strike with SAG-AFTRA without being penalized by their employers, but this was one the studios did not budge on. Considering all the other things the WGA got in that deal, it would have been absolutely irresponsible towards their own union members not to take it.
Besides, there is now a blueprint for the SAG-AFTRA deal, and the studios have shown themselves to be quite desperate (and if you don't think so, look again what they agreed to).
There's a meeting with the studios' representatives early next week, I doubt there won't be a deal made there.
Besides, there is now a blueprint for the SAG-AFTRA deal, and the studios have shown themselves to be quite desperate (and if you don't think so, look again what they agreed to).
There's a meeting with the studios' representatives early next week, I doubt there won't be a deal made there.
1) To the best of my knowledge, SAG-AFTRA never requested the WGA remain on strike with them. Nor did the WGA request SAG go on strike with them before SAG's contract expired.
2) Both SAG-AFTRA and the WGA have been extremely supportive of one-another in their strikes, and the WGA has continued to encourage its members to join SAG picket lines.
3) SAG-AFTRA has congratulated the WGA on its deal.
4) Unfortunately, the protection from retaliation for WGA members who refuse to cross a picket line was not one of the guarantees the WGA was able to get the studios to agree to in their contract. However, I think there is a strong probability that most WGA members won't end up crossing a picket line anyway -- not only will many refuse to cross a picket line on principle, but also a lot of showrunners are DGA members, and the DGA does have protection from refusing to cross picket lines, meaning there might be a lot of situations where there won't be any showrunners to hire the lower-ranking writers in the first place.
5) You are attempting to engender conflict between the unions where none exists and it's pretty gross.
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Or, here's a thought, the writers get writing now their strike is over and there will be scripts ready for when the actors strike ends meaning the actors can back to work in a minimal amount of time after their strike ends and business will return to normal. Indeed, I'm pretty sure everyone would like business to return to normal as quickly as possible after everything is resolved, as that is the fastest way to start getting paid again. As opposed to your way where the writers strike is over but the writers are still refusing to work until the actors strike is resolved. Which means they all have to wait longer before there are scripts ready, longer for things to return to normal and longer to get paid. Which is not helpful to anyone.
The fact that the WGA did so well is more likely to mean SAG does well. It means momentum is on SAG's side, and the studios won't be able to argue they can't afford a good deal (since they already gave one to the WGA and everyone by this point knows a continued strike will cost them more than just cutting a good deal). Also, the outrage against Drew Barrymore and Bill Maher has demonstrated that the unions have public support on their side and that anyone who betrays SAG and tries to go scab is going to have their career badly hurt.
That's far too logical!
I wouldn't worry about it. The actors always had more leverage than the writers (given the actors' more high-profile members). It's only because SAAG-AFTRA went on strike that the WGA was able to get so many concessioms from the studios.
A department of Disney's VFX studio has voted to unionize - 13-0.
IndieWire: "WGA Vows ‘Solidarity Forever’ as Actors Strike Negotiations Face Unique Challenges"
The Writers Guild is urging the AMPTP to not stick to its playbook of pattern bargaining and offer a deal that meets the actors' unique demands.
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The Writers Guild is urging the AMPTP to not stick to its playbook of pattern bargaining and offer a deal that meets the actors' unique demands.
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SAG-AFTRA is heading back to the negotiating table with the AMPTP in a hope to end an actors strike that now stands at 81 days, and the writers are throwing their weight behind the actors. The WGA West and East issued a statement October 2 vowing “solidarity forever,” urging studios to give the actors a fair deal that isn’t based on the WGA’s own new deal or anyone else’s.
“The WGA West and East call upon the AMPTP and its member companies to negotiate the fair deal that members of SAG-AFTRA need and deserve,” the guild said in a joint statement. “SAG-AFTRA has been on strike for more than 70 days as it fights for a contract that allows performers to share in the value of the work they help create. Rather than engage in the traditional AMPTP tactic of pushing a deal on SAG-AFTRA that is patterned on our own tentative agreement or any other industry deal, a strategy which has already caused considerable delay and suffering, the companies must make a deal that addresses the needs of performers. WGA members will continue to show up on picket lines and support SAG-AFTRA until they reach that deal. Solidarity forever.”
SAG-AFTRA and WGA have repeatedly stressed that the old-fashioned AMPTP playbook is unacceptable — i.e., studios hold out and force guilds to take the terms of whatever was negotiated before them. And while the WGA contract has key points that will be core to the SAG-AFTRA negotiating agenda, the actors have plenty of their own concerns.
“The WGA West and East call upon the AMPTP and its member companies to negotiate the fair deal that members of SAG-AFTRA need and deserve,” the guild said in a joint statement. “SAG-AFTRA has been on strike for more than 70 days as it fights for a contract that allows performers to share in the value of the work they help create. Rather than engage in the traditional AMPTP tactic of pushing a deal on SAG-AFTRA that is patterned on our own tentative agreement or any other industry deal, a strategy which has already caused considerable delay and suffering, the companies must make a deal that addresses the needs of performers. WGA members will continue to show up on picket lines and support SAG-AFTRA until they reach that deal. Solidarity forever.”
SAG-AFTRA and WGA have repeatedly stressed that the old-fashioned AMPTP playbook is unacceptable — i.e., studios hold out and force guilds to take the terms of whatever was negotiated before them. And while the WGA contract has key points that will be core to the SAG-AFTRA negotiating agenda, the actors have plenty of their own concerns.
The Drew Barrymore Show is set to return but without its three head writers who quit today over Drew's earlier attempt to bring the show back without them.
I hope Maher's staff does the same. Honestly I hope both of them suffer major career setbacks for trying to undermine their fellow workers.
Talks between the actors and the studios have broken down reports say.
Some insiders are saying there is now a possibility that the strike won't be resolved until next year.
Some insiders are saying there is now a possibility that the strike won't be resolved until next year.
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