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SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike

Says it will be disclosed friday..
Wonder what the LIkeness rights was negotiated for? Last I heard the studio still wanted the 1 time payment for permanent likeness rights.. which is crap.
If you use me in a film, even as an extra, I should be payed. They tried that junk with Crispin Glover in Back to the Future 2 and got spanked. Sorry, if you use me, i'm getting paid in each instance, maybe not as much as if i'm physically standing there, but there must be compensation.
 
The guild released a summary of the deal:

https://deadline.com/2023/11/sag-aftra-deal-summary-released-read-it-1235600852/

I probably would have recommended a rejection of the deal and a continuation of the strike. Actors really need a significant cut of over-all streaming revenue to replace syndication residuals, and the AI protections here seem a bit weak.

I was suspicious when the guild was saying that they were miles apart, then the AMPTP set its 5 p.m. deadline, and then later that same day suddenly everything was hunky-dory and SAG-AFTRA was calling it "historic." That, and the cheery way execs seemed to be like, "Teehee, SAG-AFTRA practically got everything they asked for!" just feels like they pulled a sneaky one.

Justine Bateman has a pretty good thread on Twitter about how this is a terrible deal for the union when it comes to AI. In short, a lot of actors got sold out.
 
I was suspicious when the guild was saying that they were miles apart, then the AMPTP set its 5 p.m. deadline, and then later that same day suddenly everything was hunky-dory and SAG-AFTRA was calling it "historic." That, and the cheery way execs seemed to be like, "Teehee, SAG-AFTRA practically got everything they asked for!" just feels like they pulled a sneaky one.

Justine Bateman has a pretty good thread on Twitter about how this is a terrible deal for the union when it comes to AI. In short, a lot of actors got sold out.

Yeah, the delay in releasing a summary of the deal was a bad sign too. Even their claims to getting a better minimum increase (to the writers and directors) is largely just a mathematical adjustment to account for the deal being implemented later than the previous two guild deals.
 
Sounds like maybe the union membership should reject the deal and force a resumption of negotiations.

Perhaps...It would be a difficult P.R. move by the union membership, though, and you would need some mechanism to change union negotiators (as it would destroy the credibility of the current team).
 
Perhaps...It would be a difficult P.R. move by the union membership, though, and you would need some mechanism to change union negotiators (as it would destroy the credibility of the current team).

Honestly SAG should hire the WGA's negotiating team. They did a better job, it seems.
 
Honestly SAG should hire the WGA's negotiating team. They did a better job, it seems.

The WGA settled for similar streaming residual scraps to SAG-AFTRA's deal. I'm not sure they're the best example, though they did get a number of wins elsewhere in the contract.
 
The WGA settled for similar streaming residual scraps to SAG-AFTRA's deal. I'm not sure they're the best example, though they did get a number of wins elsewhere in the contract.

I was definitely under the impression that the WGA got a better deal there, but I haven't had the time to read all the details. Isn't the biggest problem with the SAG terms the stuff about A.I. and actors' likenesses though?
 
I was definitely under the impression that the WGA got a better deal there, but I haven't had the time to read all the details. Isn't the biggest problem with the SAG terms the stuff about A.I. and actors' likenesses though?

AI is certainly what's getting the most push-back, but the streaming residuals plan is weak for both guilds, imo. SAG first proposed 2% of streaming revenue to make up for the 2% of revenue they got from syndication revenue. That would have amounted to about $1 billion per year. The WGA settled for about $20 million per year distributed as one time bonuses to new streaming shows that are watched by 20% of subscribers during their first 90 days. SAAG got basically the same deal but worth roughly $40 million a year and 25% of that to be distributed to all streaming actors through some pending formula.
 
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Well, shit. SAG-AFTRA struck a deal for video game voice actors to be able to licence their voices for AI replication for use in future games, and they did not put the deal to a vote.
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Yeah, they got screwed by their own union. This ain't right.
 
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