SAG-AFTRA vote to go on strike

Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Morpheus 02, Jul 14, 2023.

  1. HotRod

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    I doubt Bill Maher, smarmy asshole that he is, will be so easily swayed.
     
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  2. Timby

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    Oh, absolutely not. Maher is enough of a shitbag that any attempt to shame him into not scabbing will just lead to him ranting about entitled children trying to cancel him. Publicly shaming him hasn't stopped him from being a piece of shit before.
     
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  3. Jedi Marso

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    The Dropkick Murphys version of this is better, IMHO.
     
  4. Snaploud

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    I'm shocked. Shocked, I tell you.

     
  5. FPAlpha

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    Just to drive home the point what's at stake - actors on hit shows like Orange is the new Black, This is Us, Breaking Bad are getting paid pennies in residuals and these are named actors with important roles and not extras with a line here and there or one off appearances. Might be that Aaron Paul doesn't need residuals from Breaking Bad if he had a good enough contract and he's been working since but he is amongst the top 5-10% of Hollywood, that can have a nice life until they retire for good. That leaves 90%+ of the entire workforce not being able to or barely making the minum to sustain life under the current situation.

    I don't think SAG and WGA can give in at all, it would be impossible to live off the entertainment industry as it is and how it will be in the future. Only two things can happen - either both parties find a compromise soon or actors and writers will leave the business for good to look for work elsewhere as they don't have anything to fall back on after months of being out of work.
     
  6. DarrenTR1970

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    And now The Talk has decided not to resume production following pressure from SAG/WGA.
     
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  7. UssGlenn

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    To paraphrase the Red Skull "Use up what strength they have left, there are always more actors". The studios don't care if most of the actors quit for good. The big draws are making enough money to stay, and there will always be new ones trying to break into the business (at least for the foreseeable future). If your name recognition isnt enough to make someone tune in they don't care if you quit the business. Simple supply and demand, since there are way more actors than there are roles. Hence the need for the union.
     
  8. FPAlpha

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    Sure but quality is important - what good is an actor if they can't act themselves out of a paper bag? Once could argue that some A Listers fall into that category and sometimes that may be true but not everyone is able to bullshit their way into Hollywood or to the top because they have a patron who likes them or for once the casting couch works ( and please don't start a discussion on that, we all know it exists and we all know that it is being used and that even some A Listers had to go through that early in their career).

    But what do you do if the good writers leave the industry because they can't support themselves and their families? You can only mask bad movies with special effects so much, sooner or later movies bomb if the story is bad and then you have invested 200+ million and barely break even ( which is considered a massive bomb in Hollywood).

    Every success of a company comes from its employees, from the janitorial staff to the CEO. Treat your people well and give them respect and a competitive salary and it will go a huge way in making a company successful. Driving out the core of your people by running a shitty company and you will only get shitty people as replacement because the good ones either smell the stink before they start or they leave soon after and you'll be spending a massive amount of effort going through employee turnovers, effort that could be used to grow the company.
     
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  9. bdub76

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    It's about time. When this is over, the writers and actors aren't going to want to work with these people in the future.
     
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  10. UssGlenn

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    That will be a problem...eventually. There are tons of good actors out there who haven't gotten their shot yet. Not going to run out for a while.

    I suspect this is already a problem. I don't have statistics, but I'll bet the age and life experience of writers on TV is going down, because so fewer and fewer older ones can afford it. And I think its affecting the quality of the stories. Is there any equivalent of "Former WWII Bomber Pilot becomes Hollywood writer" out there today? (AKA Gene Roddenberry).
     
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    The Jennifer Hudson show is also halting plans to air new episodes sans WGA writers. That pretty much leaves the View, which has been airing for a while now during the strike. "Sherri" is returning, but it's not a struck show because they never had WGA writers.
     
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  12. bdub76

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    I would say that the last ten years has brought us fantastic television.
     
  13. Sci

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    The anecdotes I keep seeing from TV writers on Twitter is that the older, more established writers are the ones more likely to get or keep a writing job; the younger writers are having great difficulty getting hired and gaining the professional experience they need to advance in their careers on account of writing budgets being too low to open up enough jobs. So it's younger writers that are getting pushed out of the industry more than older writers, at least according to the anecdotes I'm seeing.
     
  14. Aragorn

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    ABC has solved their Monday time slot issues. Monday Night Football is going back to ABC.
     
  15. Turtletrekker

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    Amazingly, Bill Maher has backed off. Not so amazingly, his non apology rings hollow.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ho...rn-as-wga-talks-set-to-resume-1235592827/amp/
     
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    I didn't know Maher was actually a WGA member. Considering that, even improvising his material would have had the potential to be seen as a violation of strike rules, interpreting it as "writing on the spot".
     
  18. wayoung

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    He's a WGA member
     
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    Fingers crossed!