UZ was the straw that broke the camel's back.
Rewatching Voyager
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UZ was the straw that broke the camel's back.
I rather liked it, I just wish they had done some more follow up with it.
I love Unimatrix Zero. One of the most interesting borg stories for me. Never felt that the borg were weak or anything. I found the idea of tricking the borg by letting yourself assimilate quite fascinating. I loved the concept of the Unimatrix itself. Loved how Janeway was defiant in the presence of the borg queen. How she was unrelenting when she said "I don't compromise with Borg". Spot-on! But there's nothing surprising about that. Janeway always says the right thing.
I wish we had had some more episodes like that.
I wish we had had some more episodes like that.
I am just saying that this is how they weakened the borg and finally turned them into a joke. In that respect Endgame is abysmal, in other respects it's only appalling.
I don't understand. What do you mean by weakening the borg? If you think they are not as scary as they used to be, that's a subjective feeling. To me they are as scary in Unimatrix Zero as in every other borg episode.
I am sorry but people voluntarily being assimilated, and talking to each other afterward like this was only a mild inconvenience, doesn't make it look as scary as when we saw for example how traumatized Picard was after experiencing the same thing. In fact it cheapens the entire thing.
I don't think they had too many Borg episodes, and even if they did, you had a former borg as a main character. Of course they were going to ratchet up those kind of episodes.
Oh man that was terrible. You had this pretty interesting cliffhanger and then in the first 5 minutes of the premiere, they ruined that cliffhanger. It's one of the reasons I'm not a fan of Cliffhangers anymore.
Picard had a much different experience. He was not assimilated voluntarily and he did not retain his individuality while assimilated. Picard also knew that his knowledge was used in the battle that resulted in tremendous death and loss.
I agree. I'm not one who thinks they over did it. The Borg episodes were good IMO.
It's your opinion and I differ from it.
That's cool, agree to disagree
That's cool, agree to disagree
That's why I said it was subjective. An opinion. It didn't ruin anything for me.
And Picard might have looked traumatized but that episode was a lot more boring for me (in general, Picard is boring to me compared to ... anybody really). So like I said ... I enjoy that episode. Just like most of the others.
I can understand why someone would think that this particular episode weakens the Borg. They are portrayed as incompetent. A damaged Voyager somehow manages to overcome a super souped of version of a Borg cube and get away.
And then there is the fact that everyone goes to all this trouble for an imaginary place. It's not even real.
Question: Is it explained in the episode how Axum knows that Seven has been severed from the collective? They have no memories so how do they know what's happened to her? She may have stopped showing up but that could have meant she was dead or deactivated.
I think the assimilation thing was just...silly. They risked losing an eye or a limb.
And then there is the fact that everyone goes to all this trouble for an imaginary place. It's not even real.
Question: Is it explained in the episode how Axum knows that Seven has been severed from the collective? They have no memories so how do they know what's happened to her? She may have stopped showing up but that could have meant she was dead or deactivated.
I think the assimilation thing was just...silly. They risked losing an eye or a limb.
They've said that eyes and limbs can be replaced.
I've actually always thought it would be interesting to see them with some residual implants for a few epiosdes after...if not forever
It would have been interesting to have seen an episode similar to TNG's Family, but, this is Voyager.
You're going to have to refresh my memory about that episodeIt would have been interesting to have seen an episode similar to TNG's Family, but, this is Voyager.
Picard goes back to visit his family after his assimilation. He suffered from post-traumatic stress.
oh right. Great episode. That's the one with Worf's Russian parents too right?
Right in the episode "family"
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