Return of Shipper Thread Guidelines--MUST READ

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Enterprise' started by Top41, Oct 18, 2004.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. dmleo

    dmleo Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Location:
    The big apple
    I have been lurking and posting on this board for a long time and Kalen has always been a very vocal supporter of the Archer/T'Pol relationship and posted quite a bit in the A/T threads. She's also never hidden the fact that she can't stand Trip/T'Pol. Knowing that, how exactly do you expect me and other T/T fans to react? I think quite a few people seem to be suffering from short-term memory all of a sudden.

    I'll be watching very carefully to see if Kalen is indeed fair and objective.
     
  2. HighteeHeller

    HighteeHeller Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2004
    Location:
    Derby, England

    Actaully RF, Kalen is not objective and does indeed participate in shipper wars by the very fact that she chooses A/T. That is as biased as you can get.

    She chose a side, she defends that side, therefore she is in direct opposition to those she disagrees with.

    This does not a good mod make.

    I'm sorry Kalen, i have nothing against you. I have looked through some of your posts and you read as a very nice person.

    However, if Mods are to be impartial then we need one who has not chosen sides.
     
  3. cubbie

    cubbie Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2003
    I do think we need to give KalenArcher a chance to be a mod before we criticize her.

    I do think most mods try to be impartial but that doesn't mean he/she doesn't have a right to opinions or to post those opinions. As I have heard others say, mods are posters first and mods second.

    Modding is a tough job that is a volunteer position without any reimbursement of their time.

    Let's give Kalen a chance.
     
  4. angie

    angie Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2003
    Location:
    soCal
    One thing to remember is that there are three mods. It is possible Kalen can avoid the shipper complaints. Personally I usually go to jkladis because he seems the most objective---Top41 being a pro T/T fan . But all the mods seem to be able to put aside and handle problems with patience which I have every confidence Kalen will do as well!

    angie
     
  5. kitkat

    kitkat Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 24, 2004
    Location:
    The South
    I agree totally cubbie !! I love Kalen and I'm sure she can be fair. :)
     
  6. pookha

    pookha Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Location:
    pookha
    i keep on hearing top41 is pro t/t but i dont remember her in the shipper threads.

    to me there is a difference between some one who might have enjoyed a t/t moment as part of the overall enjoyment of the show and a real "shipper".



    still i think everyone needs to give kalen a chance,,
    so chill out guys..

    :cool:
     
  7. HighteeHeller

    HighteeHeller Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2004
    Location:
    Derby, England
    But Angie, you made my point. You go to an "unbiased" mod when you have a problem. I think that the few T/T'rs that have voiced their complaints here have the same POV. They want to be able to be heard and responded to without the shipper glasses on. Thats all.

    Have we(or i) given Kalen a chance? No, obviously not. But we do have the right to voice our opinion about what we fear could come of this. No one is bashing, no one is being mean, but we are asking legit questions, and just trying to understand this.
    I agree that biased mods could maybe stay away from the shipper complaints..
     
  8. dmleo

    dmleo Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Location:
    The big apple
    Exactly, it came as a total surprise to me when I found out that Top actually liked Trip and T'Pol because I had never seen her participate in any of the shipper threads.

    Kalen and I have had a few heated arguments in the past, so I know where she stands on the issue of shipping.
     
  9. RevJonesKoolAid

    RevJonesKoolAid Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004

    Perhaps the answer is to remove the moderators and allow for the survival of the fittest? Why be shackeled with the weaker?
     
  10. indranee

    indranee Vice Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2003
    I agree with this post. 100%.

    Kal should be given a chance to prove her impartiality. not everyone on this board knows how very, VERY impartial and just she has been as a mod on the Logical Choice, especially during a controversial time. she was gentle, fair, yet firm. I believe she'll make a GREAT mod.
     
  11. dmleo

    dmleo Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Location:
    The big apple
    So, Kalen was fair and impartial being a mod in a de facto Archer/T'Pol shipper forum where the motto is Archer/T'Pol are the Logical Choice and Trip and T'Pol suck.
     
  12. RevJonesKoolAid

    RevJonesKoolAid Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

    Joined:
    Oct 18, 2004
    Perhaps it is the right of the powerful subject the weak to their might? Perhaps the Intelligentsia of the board should be in control?
     
  13. Hobs202

    Hobs202 Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Apr 13, 2004
    Location:
    Yukon Ho!
    Ok, that just made NO sense, whatsoever. :confused:
     
  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Even if that was her opinion isn't it safe to assume that as a mod, she'll be able to step away from that and be unbiased? Just because she's pro A/T'p doesn't mean she can't mediate.
     
  15. dmleo

    dmleo Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Location:
    The big apple
    How can she possibly be unbiased when she's a mod at an Archer/T'Pol shipper board and actively posts in that forum?

    I hope Kalen proves me wrong and is impartial, but until that is proven to be the case I have every right to be pessimistic.
     
  16. pookha

    pookha Admiral Admiral

    Joined:
    Dec 26, 2002
    Location:
    pookha


    come one dmleo back off and chill a little.

    i didnt bring this up here to start a fight but to try and head off a possible panic reaction.

    i did make my one suggestion and as i said i think it would be a good idea if it applied to both sides of the shipper coin in case they were tabbed to be a mod .

    but as i pointed out we also need give kalen a chance.

    i dont see tbonz and the others doing this if they were not sure she could be impartial when needed.,
     
  17. jkladis

    jkladis Moderator Admiral

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2002
    Location:
    Chicago, IL
    Common sense prevails.

    Really, folks. I hardly find it appropriate for some of you to turn this thread into an open debate over this board's choice of staff. You should know better than that.

    Moderators are people. Of course we have personal preferences and bias -- In anything and everything. The idea when exercising your duties as a moderator, is to be able to overcome your partialness and inclinations as best you can.

    I'd like us not to wander in this direction again.

    Thanks

    Here we go again...
     
  18. angie

    angie Rear Admiral Rear Admiral

    Joined:
    Aug 22, 2003
    Location:
    soCal
    You know there are only a couple of people who post stuff like that and the mods deal with it. Trip is one of Mana's fav character so she doesn't put up with it. Kalen is the one who has had to deal with our crazies and done it with grace and firmness.
     
  19. 'Shippy

    'Shippy Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2004
    Location:
    Central Oklahoma
    I'm hesitant to reply to this. I think you are lumping people into a group when you say part of the motto is T/T sucks. I could get angry, but I'm not going to do that.

    I've been around LC a long time, and know that there are different people there with different opinions. A few posters there are openly T/T and I look forward to talking with them.

    I encourage people here to give Kal'En a chance. And see how she performs as a mod.
     
  20. dmleo

    dmleo Commodore Commodore

    Joined:
    Oct 31, 2003
    Location:
    The big apple
    Pookha, I think it's better to talk about this openly and voice our hesitation and concern over this turn of events.

    Considering all the shipper problems plaging this board, and I am taking full responsibility for my own actions in some of these flair ups, I find it unbelievable that such an openly supportive Archer/T'Pol shipper would be made a mod.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.