Regarding Fed ships appearing in the new Picard series

Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by Airmandan, Sep 14, 2019.

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  1. The Wormhole

    The Wormhole Fleet Admiral Admiral

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    Alright, so I misremembered. Still, the flickering readings on a window look silly AF, and really if there's going to be so many readings and computer displays overlayed on a window, wouldn't it just be more practical to have a viewscreen anyway?
     
  2. fireproof78

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    I look at it this way. If the displays are working then it's basically a view screen and no harm no foul. However, I think of moments in TWOK and TNG were the displays are flickering in and out due to whatever and it becomes super distracting. I find the viewscreen cutting in and out far more irritating than if the displays on a window cut out. As for silliness, well, I don't especially care if it looks silly.

    YMMV.
     
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  3. DaveyNY

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    That's easy to explain...

    The very high temperature, barley controlled reentry burn of the saucer with nothing but structural integrity and containment force fields and then the sudden cooling of the lower atmosphere, essentially turned the transparent aluminum into candy glass.
    :techman:
     
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  4. Tuskin38

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    We might see models of the Ent-E, Ent-D and Stargazer.

    Speculation based on the Picard museum, some of the stuff on display there was in the trailer briefly, so it's possible those models are as well.
     
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  5. F. King Daniel

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    New designs can be freshly merchandised. Note that even the 2399 comm badge isn't quite the "All Good Things" one, but 25% (;)) different. Eaglemoss are planning a whole line of Picard ships.
     
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    I could see designs introduced later in the TNG-Voyager series appearing, Starfleet seems to stick with the same designs for several decades, and classes like the Defiant, Soverign, and Intrepid will only be around 30 years old at that point, so I could definitely see them still being around.
    That would be the one biggest advantage a window has over a viewscreen. With a viewscreen if the power goes out then everyone on the bridge is completely blind to what is going on outside the ship, but with a window you can at least still see what's there.
     
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  7. Dukhat

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    I agree. I doubt we'll be seeing any Excelsiors or Mirandas ever again. We'll probably be getting more John Eaves-designed ships that will be 24th century versions of the ships we saw in DSC.
     
  8. Tuskin38

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    I doubt it, unless he's told by the higher ups to do that.
     
  9. Dukhat

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    The "higher ups" will likely not care what he designs. That's why they hired him in the first place, so they don't have to worry about it.
     
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    He makes several designs and they approve the ones they like, and he refines them from there.
    They're not made in a vacuum. He's given notes on what to keep and what to change.
     
  11. Dukhat

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    My point is that the higher ups aren’t going to say, “That design looks too much like a ship from DSC! Change it!” Because now there’s no visual continuity to Trek ship designs. Like you said, they’re going to have him make sketches and they’ll just pick the one they think is the coolest looking ship. Because they’re not making a big deal about continuity.
     
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    Indeed, isn't that the case with many of the ship designs seen on Disco? Eaves offered many designs, some looking "more traditional" to the time period, others "too advanced" and the higher ups gave the thumbs-up to the too advanced ones.
     
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  13. Dukhat

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    Yes, I’ve often felt that all the DSC ships we saw could have come from different time periods, rather than being visually consistent, like, say, the Abramsverse ships.
     
  14. Airmandan

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    I figured that if we did see older style vessels they’d simply have the windows as the view screens. Considering that other than that one scene in First Contact and the crash in Generations, the screen was always on and showing in front, they could argue that they had a window the entire time.

    Visually they don’t have to update the interior or exterior designs because they are already sufficiently future looking that you don’t have to change much. Biggest update will probably be the holographic controls.
     
  15. Tuskin38

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    There is still a clear visual design continuity in the franchise. It never went away, except when it comes to the Connie in DSC. But I could easily see that being refit to what we see when Kirk is in command.

    Eh? They're all consistent, except for the Shenzhou. But she was described as being an old ship, so she comes from a previous era of design language.
     
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    That's my thought as well.
     
  17. F. King Daniel

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    When they inevitably cast a new young Picard and flashback to the Stargazer, it'll have a window ;)
     
  18. Jackson_Roykirk

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    Like the clear glass dome on top of (at least) Pike's TOS bridge and the smaller one in TNG? ;)


    As for the OP's question, I'll bet it's going to be a viewscreen, but the viewscreen is built into clear glass so when it's turned off it's a clear window. Sort of like those windows that go opaque at the touch of a button, but instead of becoming opaque, it becomes a viewscreen. (btw, I'm mostly just kidding :vulcan:)
     
  19. Qonundrum

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    No, because real nerds use Linux. :nyah: Or Commodore Amiga. :razz: Or even Atari ST. :guffaw:
     
  20. Lord Garth

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    Commodore Amiga all the way. I only say this because of brand loyalty from when I was a kid.

    Macs are for the Kelvin Timeline. :devil:
     
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