Spoilers Re-watching Season 1 & trying to guess where Seasons 3, 4, 5 go

[dinzy]

Hope not. Saru probably has put in a lot of time as XO. Maybe not as much as Burnham (not sure how long she was first officer on Shenzou. It was mentioned in the first episode last year), but he's a battle tested commander, now.

I think it is only 6 months or so. The show has not progressed very long outside of the gap between the premier and the last episode. Riker was battle tested for 7 years on Enterprise-D. I don't think Saru is anywhere near ready by that metric. Even more so when you factor in the importance of Discovery. But yes we have no clue about Burnham, other than Georgiou saying she was ready for a command. A new experienced captain next season seems likely.

 

[XCV330]

I think it is only 6 months or so. The show has not progressed very long outside of the gap between the premier and the last episode. Riker was battle tested for 7 years on Enterprise-D. I don't think Saru is anywhere near ready by that metric. Even more so when you factor in the importance of Discovery. But yes we have no clue about Burnham, other than Georgiou saying she was ready for a command.

Georgiou was demonstrably wrong about Michael.

Riker wasted his time for several years because he simply refused to leave. He should have/could have taken a command much earlier. After the Dominion War it's hard to believe the Admiralty would have taken no for an answer.

I could see Saru being captain, especially if they're low on qualified officers. Or maybe he decides he doesn't like command and wants to stay in sciences.

 

[guyute03]

Am on episode 14 right now where they do a little bit of time traveling coming out of the Mirror U (I think 8 or 9 months only) and am wondering if this might happen in a future season as well..... Discovery time traveling to another point in Trek history, possibly even an era we the audience know. Not sure how'd that work without breaking the sh*t out of canon, but it's an interesting idea, Discovery popping up in the Dominion War, during a conflict with the Borg, or Romulans, or even in the Delta Quadrant. It's an idea that would please people who loved the TNG/DS9/Voy era.... seeing that time period on screen again but now in HD.

 

[BillJ]

Riker was battle tested for 7 years on Enterprise-D.

But was offered his own command before ever signing on to the Enterprise (See: "The Arsenal of Freedom") and multiple other commands.

 

[Jadeb]

Am on episode 14 right now where they do a little bit of time traveling coming out of the Mirror U (I think 8 or 9 months only) and am wondering if this might happen in a future season as well..... Discovery time traveling to another point in Trek history, possibly even an era we the audience know. Not sure how'd that work without breaking the sh*t out of canon, but it's an interesting idea,

Having the hero crew travel into the Trek future could be a nifty inversion of the typical Trek tropes of traveling into the past or being visited by someone from the future. We saw this idea a bit with Scotty in TNG, but he was still a guest star in a show set in the "present."

They have to erase Discovery somehow, so they might as well get full mileage out of it.

It's an idea that would please people who loved the TNG/DS9/Voy era.... seeing that time period on screen again but now in HD.

Or they'd lose their minds when it was inevitably modernized/Disco-cized. Sooner or later, the pain won't be limited to TOS fans.

 

[BillJ]

Having the hero crew travel into the Trek future could be a nifty inversion of the typical Trek tropes of traveling into the past or being visited by someone from the future. We saw this idea a bit with Scotty in TNG, but he was still a guest star in a show set in the "present."

You would have to think "Calypso" might be some kind of hint on where the show is going...

 

[Skulkin' Vulcan]

Just got thru S1 and one of the questions I have: can they dare show Romulans on this series? After all, Starfleet visited the MU and redacted all the info so Kirk & Spock wouldn't know anything about it (kind of an unfair policy there but hey...) So what's up next, Burnham meets the Bad Vulcans and gets sworn to secrecy? I can see how that would be a real hot potato, moreso than the MU.

 

[Tuskin38]

Just got thru S1 and one of the questions I have: can they dare show Romulans on this series? After all, Starfleet visited the MU and redacted all the info so Kirk & Spock wouldn't know anything about it (kind of an unfair policy there but hey...) So what's up next, Burnham meets the Bad Vulcans and gets sworn to secrecy? I can see how that would be a real hot potato, moreso than the MU.

They could just show the Klingons interacting with them. Solves both issues.

Also if you look closely in the Season finale there is a (TNG era) Romulan Logo on a sign and a tent.

 

[Timo]

Well, all that separates the Romulans from the heroes is that Neutral Zone - and its one dramatic function is to leak like a sieve.

This given, we already have to accept that "nobody knows who the Romulans are" is dependent on some factor that the audience isn't aware of but that nevertheless must exist. Do Men in Black Badges flash Red Things at witnesses? Is there a secret UFP/Romulus pact where both sides play pretend? Are there Greater Forces at play, superior beings or phenomena that provide amnesia or create the need for absolute secrecy?

Basically every starship ought to have adventures with Romulans in theory. If we saw the pertinent adventures of Discovery and compared them to those of Enterprise, we'd at least learn something about how the pretense can have been going on for so long.

Timo Saloniemi

 

[BillJ]

Just got thru S1 and one of the questions I have: can they dare show Romulans on this series?

I wouldn't be surprised if they show the Borg before all is said and done. So I'm not seeing any kind of roadblock to using the Romulans.

 

[Tuskin38]

So I'm not seeing any kind of roadblock to using the Romulans.

There are roadblocks for Starfleet seeing them, but not the Klingons. I'd be all for the Klingons and the Romulans interacting in some way, but not Starfleet. Not with Balance of Terror looming over their heads. Which they've cited several times as the reason why they won't use them. According to an interview, whenever the Romulans have been brought up in the writers room they've been shot down. So they seem to be taking this seriously.

I also find very unlikely they'll ever use the Borg. Maybe as a cameo, or a name drop. Maybe they accidentally jump into Borg Space for a few seconds but then quickly jump out. Not long enough for any serious ramifications. Or they hop to the Delta quadrant and they're named dropped by an alien.

But I don't think they'll do anything substantial with them.

 

[BillJ]

But I don't think they'll do anything substantial with them.

Please. This show is built on major callbacks as a central tenet. Whether it be Klingons, the Mirror Universe, or Pike, Spock and the Enterprise.

They are building an expectation into their viewers, and they're running out of major elements as season hooks.

 

[Tuskin38]

Please. This show is built on major callbacks as a central tenet. Whether it be Klingons, the Mirror Universe, or Pike, Spock and the Enterprise.

They are building an expectation into their viewers, and they're running out of major elements as season hooks.

I don't agree. So far everything has fit into this era, the Borg wouldn't.

And so far the Red Angels don't appear to be a call back to anything, and they're the central part of the Season.

 

[Timo]

They have also done their damnedest to give this what they think is the 23rd century feel, by limiting their references to those Memory Alpha gives for the era. So I rather doubt the Angels will be the Iconians, even if the Ba'ul might end up being the Preservers...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[Skulkin' Vulcan]

They could just show the Klingons interacting with them. Solves both issues.

Also if you look closely in the Season finale there is a (TNG era) Romulan Logo on a sign and a tent.

Cool! I'll go rewartch the Season finale.

Other thoughts: given this show's love for big! plot! twists! I'd say there's a 100% chance of a return to the Mirror Universe when a distress signal somehow makes it to Starfleet from a certain Captain Gabriel Lorca. There is no way that guy is actually dead in the MU. I figure MU Burnham is going to strut her way into that story too.

And apropos of that...we never did get actual confirmation that the original Ash Tyler was dead, did we? Given that we know Klingons keep messing around with species reassignment to create spies - and Lt. Tyler provided the DNA template for at least somewhat successful experiment - the Matriarchs of L'Rell's house might have sufficient motivation not to turn him into gagh right away.

In which case, he is going to be one twisted puppy when he's finally rescued. New recruit for S31 perhaps?

 

[Tuskin38]

And apropos of that...we never did get actual confirmation that the original Ash Tyler was dead, did we? Given that Klingons mess around some more with species reassignment to create spies - and Lt. Tyler provided the DNA template for an at least somewhat successful experiment - the Matriarchs of L'Rell's house might have sufficient motivation not to turn him into gagh.

They used the real Tyler's actual organs and body parts to change Voq into him.

The original Tyler is dead.