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Random speculations thread!

Burnham has never worn a black badge. Not even when she was a convict.

The other cons didn't wear black badges either.

Exactly this. The whole line of reasoning is faulty and grasping at straws...

Ironically, now that you mention it, they might very well be like the Grey Wardens in Dragon Age.

The Grey Wardens (Dragon Age):

You will guard them and they will hate you for it. Whenever there is not a Blight actively crawling over the surface, humanity will do its best to forget how much they need you. And that's good. We need to stand apart from them, even if they have to push us away to make us do it. That is the only way we can ever make the hard decisions.” ―Kristoff, Commander of the Grey of Orlais during the Blessed Age

[. . .]

Beholden to no temporal lords, they were free to sacrifice villages and fortresses that could not be won, preserving their might for the clashes that truly mattered.

... they acquire whatever resources they can regardless of the method, and employ whomever they must, regardless of their defects of morals or character. They often turn a blind eye to blood magic, deal with demons of the Fade, and do whatever else they must so long as those efforts led to the Blight's end.

... the ranks of the Order are filled with dangerous men and women, some unscrupulous in the extreme, but the Wardens make a point of suspending judgment of any who are effective against the darkspawn.

[. . .]

Grey Wardens are also known to recruit criminals, giving them a chance to redeem themselves by pledging to a good cause.
Clear as day.

...I rest my case.
 
Burnham has never worn a black badge. Not even when she was a convict.

The other cons didn't wear black badges either.

The whole argument about black badges = GoT Night's Watch is ludicrous. It's even more baseless and fanwanky than the Section 31 theories.

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Random, in this case, means lacking a clear plan, purpose, or pattern.
In this case, no, it doesn't mean that. If it did then none of the speculation in this thread would qualify. I think you know exactly what this thread is for, and what I meant, and you're nitpicking as a distraction, which generally is the case when someone starts quoting the dictionary. :rolleyes:


This actually only strengthens the parallels between the two series.
What? When these ideas have already been imagined for Klingons since the 80s and 90s, the theory that it was lifted from GOT is already fairly weak. The fact that this version of "the Thenns" didn't even exist in the books from the 90s, and was only introduced a few years ago due to time constraints, surely doesn't help. You're saying that strengthens your theory? How?


Try putting it all together: convicts, black badges aboard the USS Discovery, Michael Burnham as a convict with a black badge, "top secret tech" that may go against the Federation rules and ethics, Lorca's power to defy the Federation laws and values, Discovery's registry number being NCC-1031, Section 31's black uniforms and being a clandestine group that claims to protect the interests of the United Earth and the Federation, while being accountable to no one.
The only other link to the Night's Watch here is that Burnham is a convict. The rest is related to the Section 31 theory, not GOT. So, by putting it all together (combining the Night's Watch theory with the Section 31 theory) it actually makes even less sense, because the "crows" are nothing like Section 31 agents!

Anyway, I didn't know you were suggesting that Burnham literally is part of the black badges because of her "black" badge. If the idea is that her crimes were absolved by joining, this is really backwards when you think about it. The badge is on her prison uniform, then upon joining the Discovery she loses that badge (or any badge at all) as soon as she gets a real uniform.

It doesn't have to be identical in every detail to be a close parallel.
You said "undeniably close parallel", which it most certainly isn't. It's very shallow similarities.

Ironically, now that you mention it, they might very well be like the Grey Wardens in Dragon Age.
...
Clear as day.
Clear as a grey day, you mean.
 
Yes, we've heard about the Section 31 theory for months now. It's pretty popular. That theory has many problems of its own, but more to the point, Section 31 has nothing to do with Game of Thrones. I mean, at least pick one or the other.

If you're suggesting this is confirmed because a supposed insider said so... I'm afraid not. Since the actual show came out, this "Michael" has been fully discredited because the premise of the show is not what he described it as. He says nothing about the war. Supposedly, Section 31 has a cloaking device and the Klingons are hunting down Discovery to get it, and "this is why there is a Klingon captain featured in the show". Nope.
 
Speculation: Shenzou will be refitted. They made a point of showing the hull is still mostly intact. Starfleet never returned to scuttle her. Starfleet is also loosing a lot of ships.
 
Considering that Lorca has both a Tribble and a bowl of fortune cookies on his desk, wouldn't the Tribble go for those cookies as soon as he leaves the room? Lorca returning to an office full of Tribbles and no cookies would be rather humorous, yes? :P
 
Lorca's tribble has been neutered, though. No problem there.

I have brought this up before, but am I the only one who is amazed tribbles haven't been introduced as a staple food yet? They breed so freaking fast and they're so small and defeseness, they're pretty much self-replicating chicken nuggets. With two tribbles and a bushel of wheat, you could probably feed your entire crew for a month.
 
Lorca's tribble has been neutered, though. No problem there.

I have brought this up before, but am I the only one who is amazed tribbles haven't been introduced as a staple food yet? They breed so freaking fast and they're so small and defeseness, they're pretty much self-replicating chicken nuggets. With two tribbles and a bushel of wheat, you could probably feed your entire crew for a month.
I think you probably are. Its a bit like being surprised people still eat at MacDonald's when there are so many pigeons on the pavement outside.

They've got protein resequencing machines and processed food mechanisms. They don't really need to be gutting and skinning tribbles. Besides aren't tribble organs mostly dedicated to reproduction?
 
Not a speculation, but I don't know where to post it, it's great to see the UK press jumping on-board the show this past week, due to the cast doing promo. It works and they should come back to the UK in March for the finale. We're getting good interviews and insights.
 
Every thing we are seeing is taking place in an alternate universe.
One where Kahn and his group were successful in taking over and were never exiled.

Why?

Everyone is sooo pretty, look at the party EVERYONE is so damn pretty, like them came out of an ad in GQ magazine. Where are the chubby bald guys? Everyone has perfect Genes.
 
I think you probably are. Its a bit like being surprised people still eat at MacDonald's when there are so many pigeons on the pavement outside.
Clearly you've never been to Spain...

They don't really need to be gutting and skinning tribbles.
What about the Klingons? They eat most of their food live. Much as they hate tribbles, I kind of think the sudden appearance of a shitton of tribbles in their engine room would be the sort of problem best solved with ketchup...

Besides aren't tribble organs mostly dedicated to reproduction?
Again, clearly you've never been to Spain...
 
I would gather that a tribble would been to have its fur removed, or be quickly deep fried to appeal to the Klingon pallet. The fur might be an issue. That and the loud screaming.
 
Everyone is sooo pretty, look at the party EVERYONE is so damn pretty, like them came out of an ad in GQ magazine. Where are the chubby bald guys? Everyone has perfect Genes.

I have ZERO problem with this lol. Considering all the previous shows have had people that are mostly 'average' with the exception of the ONE chick on the show with big boobs or amazing good looks (Nurse Chapel, Deanna Troi, Jadzia Dax, 7of9), it's rather refreshing to see some decent looking dudes on the show as well. I think the only good looking guys that have appeared in Star Trek are the two holosuite Trill massage therapists in the Hoobishan Baths in the DS9 episode "Way of the Warrior".
 
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