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Post Ultimate Computer USS Excalibur

The whole idea of the Excalibur making for a testbed is actually brilliant -- you could even weave together a plot that it helped create the TMP Refit

Not a lot of time for that, really. It's not impossible, but rerigging the ship as a testbed between 2268 and 2279 (you have to give some time not only for the trials to work, but for the Enterprise to be rebuilt)... You have to assume that newer designs and test-beds were already in place in the 2260s for the Enterprise to be possible in 2271. :S
 
^Only if you're assuming that things take as long in the future as they do today.

Well, we know that it took 18 months to refit the Enterprise with new technology that presumably had been test-run already. The problem is the timing of the Excalibur's loss in "Ultimate Computer". She had to be salvaged and rebuilt (uprated) to be a test-ship. For that radical of a refit, let's assume 18 months... which puts us back to when the Enterprise was relaunched.
 
Well here's the idea I have for bringing the Excalibur into the development of the Edward Teller.

Immediately following the events in The Ultimate Computer, the Excalibur was surveyed and because of the extensive damage, was determined to be too expensive to repair. After any salvageable equipment was removed, the ship was to be stricken, and the hulk towed to a breakers yard.

Enter Fleet Dynamics, the shipbuilding firm pushing for the development of the Edward Teller. They had been hampered by the unease of some members of the Federation Council and Starfleet Command to go forward with the development and construction of what was primarily a warship and whose mere existence would certainly escalate tensions with the Klingon and Romulan Empires. As a result, practical tests of technologies that had been developed and tested in simulation, have been postponed numerous times, stalling the project.

Seizing on the opportunity provided by the weakening of the fleet following the M5 incident, Fleet Dynamics approaches Starfleet with a proposal to use the hulk of the Excalibur as a space frame to mount the new technologies and test them. At the end of the process the Excalibur would be returned to operational duty, all repairs and modifications would be completed at Fleet Dynamics expense.

Fleet Dynamics was a consortium of numerous companies involved in ship construction and maintenance with facilities all around Federation space. To sweeten the deal, they additionally offered to use their facilities to handle the repairs on the Lexington, Enterprise, Hood and Potemkin, easing the workload off of the already heavily burdened Starfleet facilities and speeding the process of returning those ships to duty. That was enough to convince most of Starfleet Command to endorse the plan, regaining the Excalibur was a bonus on top of that.

The Federation Council still had to approve the proposal and many members still had misgivings about the Edward Teller. After a disturbing presentation by Rear Admiral Rittenhouse highlighting the impact of losing 42% of the fleets Constitution class starships in the current political climate, the council gave their consent. Additionally, they unenthusiastically approved the construction of the Edward Teller, but only a single ship and only after successful testing of the new technology was completed and the Excalibur was returned to Starfleet.

Fleet Dynamics interest in the Excalibur was solely to move the Edward Teller project forward. Despite the Federation Council's reluctance, the directors felt that the ever escalating situation with the Klingons, Romulans, Orions and the Gorn, would eventually result in a contract for a fleet of Edward Teller class ships. Unofficially and very confidentially, they had been assured of such an eventuality by several members of Starfleet Command. So the refit of the Excalibur proceeded, testing of new technology was completed as quickly as possible so that work could proceed on the Edward Teller.

And speaking of the Excalibur, here's some new pics, changed a few parts to give it more of an in-between TOS and TMP look...

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I love that saucer. The TMP saucer is actually concave. The Tos saucer is convex, with the dome rising. Here you keep the TOS lines, the TMP's bridge and saucer width--a perfect combination. You could say that this is from the alternate universe that SFB is from--an X-ship. Here constant combat slowed TMP era development a tad, allowing for TOS influences to remain longer, with Starfleet Command showing a Praxis era showdown.
 
I see no reason why the designs from the SFB Universe couldn't exist in the "Canon" Universe, albeit as not quite as common variants of their class, as opposed to the standard class refit of SFB. I can see them as a series of experimental refits throughout the fleet, taking one or a few individuals from each class; a stepping stone to the final refits for each class, or perhaps even as an alternative experimental upgrade program to the refit program that we all know of, but didn't quite pan out as well as the other it was competing against for one or more reasons.

At the very least, I see those upgrades existing as schematics that were drawn out and everything, but never utilized because Starfleet Command decided that those upgrades weren't as worthy of for funding as what would become the refit program we all know and love.

Though honestly, I kind of like the idea of all examples of the upgrades at least existing as unique examples in the regular universe.
 
New engines! I decided the engines were too fat and droopy in the middle and I wanted them to be more of an earlier version of the new hotness they put on the refit Enterprise...

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The smaller Bussard endcaps look a bit unbalanced, as if they're wanting to veer upwards. Perhaps if you extend the topside nacelle "humps" all the way forward, like the ventral ones?

Other than that, I love it! :)
 
Made some adjustments, and then just rebuilt them lol... maybe this helps with the look of the mini bussards...

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I like how you're trying to evoke the sort of "upswept" front of the refit enterprise's nacelles, but the tiny bussard collectors are a bit funny, at least to my eye. I might suggest maybe using the caps from your original design, and placing a fin like the one you have at the rear of the nacelle up the centre to give the same effect. actually, I just had a good idea; if you do decide to keep with the small bussards, it might be interesting to throw in a sort of "vintage propeller plane" feel to it. I'm thinking of say, the engine of this plane from the movie Porco Rosso (only turned upside down); http://swfan1977.deviantart.com/art/Porco-Rosso-wallpaper-186271986

anyway, good luck! she really is a thing of beauty otherwise! :)
 
I dunno, I still think the small bussards are (at least in theory) perfectly acceptable - but the new thinner "humps" on top don't do much to dispel the upwards-pointy-syndrome they've got.

Can I suggest you make those humps wider (per the original) and maybe inset the Bussard domes? This should resolve the balance issue once and for all, and the inset would give an echo of what's to come with the TMP refit style. (you could still put in a vertical divider per WinstonSmith's idea, not sure whether this would improve it or not though). I may go a such a step further as to suggest the domes be left dark/transparent with no glow - again to transition towards TMP et.al.

I did prefer the sweep and depth of your previous warp field grilles BTW; for some reason they just go better with the rest of the mesh IMO...

Keep it up! I love seeing different folks' takes on the TOS-TMP / Phase II transitional designs. They fascinate me to no end. :)
 
The expanse of the saucer is perfect. Even harder to get righ than nacelles is the join between the nacelles and the support underneath. People overlokk a complex pylon attachment points. Yours are perfect. The nacelles look as though designed by Luigi Colani...
 
The expanse of the saucer is perfect. Even harder to get righ than nacelles is the join between the nacelles and the support underneath. People overlokk a complex pylon attachment points. Yours are perfect. The nacelles look as though designed by Luigi Colani...

Well naturally, because, you see, I AM Luigi Colani... but I can't back that up with any kind of documentation...

Changed a bunch of stuff, here's a teaser...

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Couple more pics at my website
 
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