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[Rush Limborg]

Hey, Ktrek:

Look...I'm with y'all 100% on the health-care thing. But Leisner's right...it's not worth provoking The Wrath Of Sci. I only do it if I think it would be constructive to the thread--or if I'm answering something he (or someone else) said.

I see your analogies--and IMHO, they're good ones. But...it's a little "left-field" (translation: it wasn't really called for), and that kind of thing's by-and-large for the Misc. thread or The Neutral Zone.

Just my word of advice. Provoking people sets a bad reputation--and a bad reputation sets a bad example--and it drives people away from our cause. OK?

Ktrek, who initially interjected the irrelevant, unrelated, and Beck-level silly analogy into the thread.

Well...some of us happen to like Glenn Beck. (For us, his silliness is part of his charm.) And...don't you think that'll provoke some of his fans to respond in kind?

(BTW, fellow conservatives: this here is an example of "answering".)

 

[Greg Cox]

"Sloth" using the Pakleds by Greg Cox.

I'm ready! I just bought Christopher Collins' Pakled outfit!
http://therinofandor.blogspot.com/2009/07/itchy-ebay-trigger-finger.html

That is good. You are smart!

(Sorry. My brain still hasn't recovered from writing 20,000 words of Pakled dialogue!)

 

[Deranged Nasat]

That is good. You are smart!

(Sorry. My brain still hasn't recovered from writing 20,000 words of Pakled dialogue!)

I can't wait for this one...

 

[DimesDan]

Hey, Dimesdan and Ktrek:

Look...I'm with y'all 100% on the health-care thing. But Leisner's right...it's not worth provoking The Wrath Of Sci. I only do it if I think it would be constructive to the thread--or if I'm answering something he (or someone else) said.

I see your analogies--and IMHO, they're good ones. But...it's a little "left-field" (translation: it wasn't really called for), and that kind of thing's by-and-large for the Misc. thread or The Neutral Zone.

Just my word of advice. Provoking people sets a bad reputation--and a bad reputation sets a bad example--and it drives people away from our cause. OK?

Ktrek, who initially interjected the irrelevant, unrelated, and Beck-level silly analogy into the thread.

Well...some of us happen to like Glenn Beck. (For us, his silliness is part of his charm.) And...don't you think that'll provoke some of his fans to respond in kind?

(BTW, fellow conservatives: this here is an example of "answering".)

What the hell man? for what it's worth and given I live in a country that has a universal welfare state which was proposed during the 1920s and 30s and then implemented in the 1940s when the economy was far from great and we had just come out of a very costly conflict and we still had rationing to boot, I agree with Sci 100%, it is a disgrace that the worlds only super power does not have such a system. What I did take umbridge at (and I'm a wee bit annoyed with myself to rise to your comments and be posting this, but then again, thats what you get for copious amounts of Vodka and Coke and lack of sleep) is the discussion on the subject in general, this is not the place to have it.

 

[Daddy Todd]

There's also the old adages "don't fix what isn't broken" and "you can't argue with success"! Change for the sake of change is rarely ever good and rarely ever an improvement over what has gone before.

I seem to recall not everyone was happy with all the Mirror Universe, duplicate Kiras stuff, and much yearning for all the 24th century series' timelines to catch up with each other, so some people were questioning the current state of the DS9 books.

That would describe me. I think the Destiny trilogy suffered (not greatly, but somewhat) by not stopping by Bajor & DS9, and not including the majority of the DS9 characters in the action. It wasn't a huge deal, but I found myself wondering "I wonder how all this is affecting things in the B'hava'el system."

And next year, I'll have the opportunity to find out. I'm pleased!

 

[Rush Limborg]

What the hell man? for what it's worth and given I live in a country that has a universal welfare state which was proposed during the 1920s and 30s and then implemented in the 1940s when the economy was far from great and we had just come out of a very costly conflict and we still had rationing to boot, I agree with Sci 100%, it is a disgrace that the worlds only super power does not have such a system. What I did take umbridge at (and I'm a wee bit annoyed with myself to rise to your comments and be posting this, but then again, thats what you get for copious amounts of Vodka and Coke and lack of sleep) is the discussion on the subject in general, this is not the place to have it.

Ah, well...my apologies for mistaking your intentions.

I will promptly remove your name from my post, if that is what you wish....

There. Done.

Now with that outta the way....

 

[Sci]

Hey, Ktrek:

Look...I'm with y'all 100% on the health-care thing. But Leisner's right...it's not worth provoking The Wrath Of Sci.

I like it!

"SCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!"

ETA:

As for the DS9 jump....

I don't agree with the decision at all. The DS9 Relaunch has been all about telling a continuous, serialized story that's given amazing detail about a single calender year, and the idea of just breaking with that and jumping to a timeframe five years in the future -- a timeframe that's five times as large as the timeframe of the entire series so far -- seems to me a mistake. The idea of jumping from telling a continuous, serialized story to just jumping into the future seems to be arbitrary, and to do a disservice to those readers who quite understandably took the continuous serialization of the year 2376 as an indication that the entire series would be so continuous.

 

[Christopher]

^ I figured they'd start a line of 'nuTrek' novels eventually (it was pretty much inevitable, not just from a business standpoint, but because of the infinite possibilities for fresh stories), but wasn't expecting it to be this soon given the potential for contradictions and inconsistencies between any novels set in the 'JJ-verse' and any future films set in the same, and I think it's great that they decided not to wait to give potential new Trek Lit readers a new set of adventures to absorb while waiting for JJ and Co. to put out new on-screen adventures for Kirk and his crew.

The risk for contradictions would always exist so long as there are new movies in production. And the risk for contradictions always existed before, but it's never stopped there from being Trek tie-in books before. Almost every previous ST series has had its first original tie-in book published within a year of its premiere, two years for TOS (the young-adult Mission to Horatius).

 

[Marie1]

I seem to recall not everyone was happy with all the Mirror Universe, duplicate Kiras stuff, and much yearning for all the 24th century series' timelines to catch up with each other, so some people were questioning the current state of the DS9 books.

IIRC, people's main problem was the unavoidable time between Warpath and FS/TSK, and that wasn't really how people wanted to think things had taken place. I think a couple of people said DS9 should catch up, and most people were against it- especially given the build up we've had about certain future things that would be silly to skip entirely now.

 

[William Leisner]

Great way to mis-quote me mate!

Mate, I copied and pasted your exact words. Perhaps the word you were looking for was "misinterpret"?

The - and then the other - were denoting a separate thing, maybe I should have used brackets but as we are all intelligent adults on here, I thought that it would have been obvious.

No, sorry. You're required, when using written communication, to use proper punctuation (and words) to get your point across clearly. And if you fail to do that, you're not allowed to blame others or impugn their intelligence for your own failure.

 

[Rosalind]

:: kick Thread back on topic ::

 

[Rush Limborg]

Hey, Ktrek:

Look...I'm with y'all 100% on the health-care thing. But Leisner's right...it's not worth provoking The Wrath Of Sci.

I like it!

"SCIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII!"

(Dr. Crusher voice): I knew you'd like it!

ETA:

As for the DS9 jump....

I don't agree with the decision at all. The DS9 Relaunch has been all about telling a continuous, serialized story that's given amazing detail about a single calender year, and the idea of just breaking with that and jumping to a timeframe five years in the future -- a timeframe that's five times as large as the timeframe of the entire series so far -- seems to me a mistake. The idea of jumping from telling a continuous, serialized story to just jumping into the future seems to be arbitrary, and to do a disservice to those readers who quite understandably took the continuous serialization of the year 2376 as an indication that the entire series would be so continuous.

Frankly...I agree. 100%.

Sci...we have to stop agreeing like this or we might actually begin to respect each other.

(Zak Kebron voice): Or even--heaven forbid--LIKE each other!

 

[TigerBait]

Hey can we get a refresher on the crew? I know some of the mains, for instance is Shar still the science officer after what's been happening on Andor. That bolian just got taken out, Jast.

 

[Sci]

Hey can we get a refresher on the crew? I know some of the mains, for instance is Shar still the science officer after what's been happening on Andor. That bolian just got taken out, Jast.

Jast was taken out a long time ago. She appeared in the N-Vector comics and in the first part of the first DS9 Relaunch novel and then died. She's never been anything but a minor character.

I do believe that Shar is no longer a part of the DS9 crew.

 

[Rush Limborg]

^True. He left for his home planet to get married in the Andor story in Worlds of DS9, vol. I.

 

[TigerBait]

Crusher left the Enterprise for a year, so he could go back from Andor. What about Nog, will he be a lifer that is on the station until doomsday?

 

[Therin of Andor]

Hey can we get a refresher on the crew?

http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Deep_Space_9_residents

 

[Mike Farley]

With regards to the DS9 Relaunch jumping forward in time, a decision like this has both its pluses and its minuses, but I'm not going to say that the minuses will outweight the pluses until I've actually seen exactly how they play things out.

You obviously have issues. Why in the Great Bird's name would you wait until you've actually seen the product before passing judgment? Dammit, this is The Internet, not some little old ladies book of the month club! Get serious, man!