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^The reason they accepted it so quickly is to do with previous events in the series.

Yeah, I suspect two of the bus mates mentioned the events of the Stolen Earth as reason why they were so ready to figure it out and believe they were on another planet.

Which is a welcome change from everyone dismissing 3 months of ghosts, a massive Cyberman invasion, and mass hysteria as just one big weather phenomenon.
 
Well, I also didn't like how quickly everyone accepted that they were on an alien world and that extraterrestrial life exists. Not realistic.

Actually, it was perfectly realistic for the Whoniverse. The existence of extra-terrestrial life has become common knowledge.

In the Whoniverse's 2006, Tony Blair was assassinated and Big Ben destroyed by an alien spacecraft that crashed into the River Thames as part of an alien plot to destroy the Earth. The Doctor thwarted it when he hijacked a Royal Navy missile to destroy 10 Downing Street and thereby kill the alien who was impersonating the Acting Prime Minister.

Then on Christmas Day 2006, a giant alien spacecraft appeared over London and a third of the world's population was held hostage with a mind control technology that affected people with a certain blood type. That ship was later shot down in orbit.

Subsequently, in the summer of 2007, an army of 5 million cybernetic organisms from another dimension intent upon converting the world into their image, known as the Cybermen (who were created long before the Borg), manifested itself at locations all across the globe due to the irresponsible actions of the Torchwood Institute. The Doctor managed to suck them back into the void that exists between dimensions (at the cost of his best friend and would-be lover, Rose Tyler).

On Christmas Day 2007, London was attacked by another alien ship that appeared above the city. The Doctor managed to kill its pilot and thwart her plans (inadvertently draining the River Thames in the process) whilst the British Army shot down the ship.

Several months later, the Royal Hope Hospital in London was teleported to the Moon by a species called the Judoon who were looking for a fugitive and couldn't search the hospital while it was on Earth for legal reasons. The Hospital was later teleported back; at the same time, there UK elections were on, and one of the candidates for Prime Minister was talking about the existence of aliens as part of his campaign platform.

Then, in late 2008, newly-elected British Prime Minister Harold Saxon announced that he had made first contact with a new alien species called the Toclafane. Unbeknownst to anyone else, though, the Toclafane were working for him; he used them to assassinate the US President before the Doctor could stop him.

Then, after that, on Christmas Day 2008, Buckingham Palace nearly became ground zero for an alien luxury ship that was crashing to the Earth before the Doctor saved the ship. Then, just a few months later, an alien species called the Sontarans used a widespread new car engine system they'd planted in an attempt to poison the Earth's atmosphere to exterminate the population to use the planet as a breeding world. The Doctor and UNIT (the Unified Intelligent Taskforce, a branch of the UN) stopped them.

Then, in the summer of 2009, the entire planet Earth was transported across the universe to an area of space known as the Medusa Cascade by a group of aliens known as the Daleks, who were using Earth, along with twenty-six other planets, to emit a weapon known as the Reality Bomb that would have devastated known space. The Daleks invaded Earth in the process, destroying much of London and New York, decimating Earth military forces, and apparently killing both the new UK Prime Minister, before the Doctor and Company managed to defeat them and return Earth to its proper orbit.

Bottom line: It's common knowledge. :bolian:

Shows you I don't know anything about Doctor Who!
 
it does not help when you go into the spin-offs, and the population is maybe more blind to these things than when they are in Doctor Who.

for example in The Last Sontaran, Sarah Jane says to a girl "surely in this day of age, the idea of aliens can not seem so strange" that said I think Journeys End has been a wake up call for the human race, as after that in SJA, one of characters mentioned the events of that episode, but even then the population, still seem to like to live in blissful ignorance, seemingly hoping if they dont talk about it, it will go away.
 
Awww, you mean there was a preview for the next special? Aww man, my copy cut off after the first Cloister Bell chime. :(

Oh don't even GET me started on the "science fiction" of it all. These creatures can form fucking spacial wormholes across the UNIVERSE just by flying really fast around a planet?? That makes no fucking sense no matter how you slice it and how "fictional" Doctor Who is supposed to be.

Quite honestly it didn't bother me that much. SF is full of creatures who can mess with the laws of physics via biological means. We already know there are time travelling cats, and Tractators who can move planets around by digging tunnels, and the Axons have their living starships. So whats the big deal?
I suppose the Doctor could've gone on about their having some sort of 'Quantic reconversion gland in their foreheads.' But all that would do would waste airtime.

Otherwise it was a decent enough story.

Quite liked the alienswhich looked great. A bit like an animal version of the Nimon. However, does anyone else whos read A Writers Tale remember RTD's original story idea for the season 4 opener? Wormhole? Swarms of ravenous wolflike creatures?

Didn't mind Christina so much. Though from the beginning she seemed just a bit too cocky to make for a regular companion. Wouldn't mind seeing her back someday though.
And just to prove what a DW-geek I am. She didn't so mucvh remind me of Lara Croft as she did...well....the name escapes me, but does anyone remember the old FASA Doctor Who Role Playing Game? There was a short bit of fiction in the Players Manual that featured a female thief to help demonstrate game mechanics...

Another nice turn from UNIT. And damn I kept thinking I should remember Malcolm from somewhere...

Oh God though, I really hated the flying bus. Just just went way OTT to me and into Harry Potter territory. Not to mention a nice round of applause from the troops. Ick.

All in all I gave it an AVERAGE. But don't expect me to start rending my garments and cursing God and RTD just because I didn't care for the episode.
Needless to say then, I'll be staying well away from OG this evening.
 
Didn't mind Christina so much. Though from the beginning she seemed just a bit too cocky to make for a regular companion. Wouldn't mind seeing her back someday though.

All through the show, I kept thinking to myself, "My God, she's being written as though Rusty wants to make another spin-off based upon her."

Then I remembered that Lady Christina de Sexy Boots and her Flying Bus would need to take second fiddle to Davies' next project, which he's made pretty clear to be Gay People Fucking 2: Older Gay People Fucking.
 
Didn't mind Christina so much. Though from the beginning she seemed just a bit too cocky to make for a regular companion. Wouldn't mind seeing her back someday though.

All through the show, I kept thinking to myself, "My God, she's being written as though Rusty wants to make another spin-off based upon her."

Then I remembered that Lady Christina de Sexy Boots and her Flying Bus would need to take second fiddle to Davies' next project, which he's made pretty clear to be Gay People Fucking 2: Older Gay People Fucking.
when did he say he was going to make porn?
 
Didn't mind Christina so much. Though from the beginning she seemed just a bit too cocky to make for a regular companion. Wouldn't mind seeing her back someday though.

All through the show, I kept thinking to myself, "My God, she's being written as though Rusty wants to make another spin-off based upon her."

Then I remembered that Lady Christina de Sexy Boots and her Flying Bus would need to take second fiddle to Davies' next project, which he's made pretty clear to be Gay People Fucking 2: Older Gay People Fucking.

:rolleyes:
 
Oh don't even GET me started on the "science fiction" of it all. These creatures can form fucking spacial wormholes across the UNIVERSE just by flying really fast around a planet?? That makes no fucking sense no matter how you slice it and how "fictional" Doctor Who is supposed to be.

Quite honestly it didn't bother me that much. SF is full of creatures who can mess with the laws of physics via biological means. We already know there are time travelling cats, and Tractators who can move planets around by digging tunnels, and the Axons have their living starships. So whats the big deal?
I suppose the Doctor could've gone on about their having some sort of 'Quantic reconversion gland in their foreheads.' But all that would do would waste airtime.

If he had said they create "gates" or "holes" or something vague about the spatial tunnels, I'd be a bit more understanding. But, wormholes have a definition in real life. It would be like someone asking "What is the force that keeps all objects drawn towards the ground?" and the answer being "Solar Flares" (instead of gravity).

While wormholes are theoretical, I can damn well know (just by their theoretical definition) that you can't create one by "going really fast". It's like the 1970's Superman movie, flying around the world to reverse time. Come on, haven't we in the 21st century moved past the moon-made-of-cheese beliefs in science? Even in the general population?

I guess it's what you mentioned. Biologicals rending physics. It just throws everything into strictly magical fantasy world (kind of like the Sonic Everything Wand he carries these days). Don't throw "sciencey" words out there if you're not going to bother trying to at least know what you're talking about. Lazy writing.

Just my opinion, of course... ;)
 
Didn't mind Christina so much. Though from the beginning she seemed just a bit too cocky to make for a regular companion. Wouldn't mind seeing her back someday though.

All through the show, I kept thinking to myself, "My God, she's being written as though Rusty wants to make another spin-off based upon her."

Then I remembered that Lady Christina de Sexy Boots and her Flying Bus would need to take second fiddle to Davies' next project, which he's made pretty clear to be Gay People Fucking 2: Older Gay People Fucking.

:guffaw::guffaw::guffaw::techman:
 
If he had said they create "gates" or "holes" or something vague about the spatial tunnels, I'd be a bit more understanding. But, wormholes have a definition in real life. It would be like someone asking "What is the force that keeps all objects drawn towards the ground?" and the answer being "Solar Flares" (instead of gravity).

While wormholes are theoretical, I can damn well know (just by their theoretical definition) that you can't create one by "going really fast". It's like the 1970's Superman movie, flying around the world to reverse time. Come on, haven't we in the 21st century moved past the moon-made-of-cheese beliefs in science? Even in the general population?

I guess it's what you mentioned. Biologicals rending physics. It just throws everything into strictly magical fantasy world (kind of like the Sonic Everything Wand he carries these days). Don't throw "sciencey" words out there if you're not going to bother trying to at least know what you're talking about. Lazy writing.

Just my opinion, of course... ;)

Honestly, I put it in the same category as time travel and warp drive. By modern understanding they're impossible too.
Both machines and spiders can generate light, and weave strands of threadlike material. Both seem pretty magical to me. I just think of this as the same thing on a more complex scale. I suppose I could post my own personal SF explaination. But that'd just bore everyone and make me sound like an even bigger nerd than I am. :)

Generally I'm with you though, and I like my science to be accurate. But in cases like this, I can live with a Sci-Fi explaination. We'll just have to agree to disagree I guess. :)
 
Gave it average.

I liked Malcom. The cat-burgular woman not so much. And the obsessive geek in me couldn't stand the fact that the communication ear-pieces on the alien ship were shaped for a human ear. The rest was pretty meh..
 
I enjoyed this episode. It was definitely better then the Christmas special, and while I was afraid it was going to be a Midnight retread based on the preview I was happy to see that I was wrong.

I thought pretty much all of the characters were likable. I also liked the aliens, I wish the Doctor would of been able to save them and brought them home in the Tardis instead of just having them get killed.
 
Prolly spoilers in here:

I quite liked it, but not a lot seemed to happen; they arrive decide they can take the bus back but its stuck and has no petrol, get a crystal thingy's anti grav housing and leave.

I just expected more plot.

Me, too. Just watched it, courtesy of a friend.

It was a bit brief and rushed. It felt like big pieces of plot were missing. Still, the bits with Lee Evans and The Doctor were nice, and I like that he didn't take the thief with him, but helped her get away. She was a bit too clichéd of a character, anyway, and would've gotten a tad annoying after awhile. I liked the "monster" was just a natural phenomenon, an animal just doing what it does to survive. But the flying bus was just too "Mary Poppins" for my taste. I had to cringe a little when that happened.

But it was a nice, enjoyable little jaunt. I gave it "average" only because a "good" option wasn't available. I'm really looking forward to the next special, though.
 
Gave it average.

I liked Malcom. The cat-burgular woman not so much. And the obsessive geek in me couldn't stand the fact that the communication ear-pieces on the alien ship were shaped for a human ear. The rest was pretty meh..

Perhaps the people of San Helios were humanoid and the communicators were for working with the population when they came to trade/feed or whatever?
 
It was a pretty good episode. Well paced with good cast chemistry. I also never mind watching Michelle Ryan on screen.
 
I gave it an above average but I may have been overgenerous as I don't really think it deserved it. It was probably okay as a normal series episode but when the specials were being touted as something a bit, er...., special it didn't really deliver on the extra potential it had set up.

The plot was pretty non-existent and whilst there were a couple of nice set pieces I think the whole production suffered from the rushed timeline for delivery - given that they were filming only back in February I think some areas which could have been tightened up, weren't really addressed before it went out. e.g. the leisurely pace at which the wormhole was closed at the end should really have been speeded up given the imminent threat.

But the whole thing certainly wasn't terrible (much better than The Next Doctor) and I'm really looking forward to The Waters of Mars which I'm pretty confident will have the utmost attention paid to it based on the expectations it will have placed on it in the run-up to Matt Smith's reign.
 
I saw it on youtube yesterday. I liked it, but didn't really like the Doctor letting Christina get away. That just frees her up to commit more crimes. But I guess the Doctor felt guilty over not taking her with him.

It didn't make much sense that the stingray shaped aliens could just create a wormhole just by flying around.

It's a pity they couldn't find a way to let the bug aliens live.
 
Two things:

1) If she didn't want to be caught, why did she leave that noise-making cat-thingy in the place of the cup? I mean, why not leave something of equal weight (ala' Indiana Jones) but silent. That way, there would be at least five minutes or more before someone noticed. Instead, she left a noise-maker that instantly attracted their attention? Pretty dumb.

2) Did anyone notice that Mickey Smith (Noel Clarke) was the one narrating the Confidential this time? I guess Anthoney Head's contract is up. I love hearing Mickey again, and I would love any tangential connection he can keep with the show... :techman:
 
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