Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Grading
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I don't get some of the reviews, especially the ones complaining about the "over-complicated, convoluted storyline". I thought the storyline was very easy to understand and much more straightforward than any of the previous movies. I also liked it a lot more than parts 2 & 3.
I don't get some of the reviews, especially the ones complaining about the "over-complicated, convoluted storyline". I thought the storyline was very easy to understand and much more straightforward than any of the previous movies. I also liked it a lot more than parts 2 & 3.
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This is some type of knee-jerk reaction. It's far from a fair or accurate grade.
I've seen it.
This is some type of knee-jerk reaction. It's far from a fair or accurate grade.
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I quite agree, I found it more a case of the story lines simply not having much depth rather than being confusing. There was too little story for too many characters, but the story itself was very straight forward.
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I didnt find it bloated at all. I thought it was an excellent movie, good plot and moved at a good pace.
You know, the obsession with seeing what a movies "score" is on sites like Rotten tomatoes always confuses me. You either liked it or you didnt, the score wont validate your opinion and wont change your enjoyment level, and wont make the slightest difference to whether a sequel gets made to the film.
I didnt find it bloated at all. I thought it was an excellent movie, good plot and moved at a good pace.
You know, the obsession with seeing what a movies "score" is on sites like Rotten tomatoes always confuses me. You either liked it or you didnt, the score wont validate your opinion and wont change your enjoyment level, and wont make the slightest difference to whether a sequel gets made to the film.
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This. I don't care what critics (or some guy on the street) think about a movie. All that matters is: was I entertained for two hours. The answer for OST is: yeah!
Personally I liked all the Pirate movies, do I think they are without flaws, no, but I had hours of fun watching them at the cinema and at home, what else do people want?
This. I don't care what critics (or some guy on the street) think about a movie. All that matters is: was I entertained for two hours. The answer for OST is: yeah!
Personally I liked all the Pirate movies, do I think they are without flaws, no, but I had hours of fun watching them at the cinema and at home, what else do people want?
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I just saw the movie. I loved it!
My grade is B+ or Above Average.
I've been a fan of the franchise ever since the first. The only reason I saw the first was because a someone told me to check it out, I never really had any interest in pirate movies. I ended up being a big fan of it. The movie was alot of fun and was carried entirely by Johnny Depp. The supporting cast was good too, Rush, Knightley and Bloom. Even the minor characters like Jack and Barbossa's pirate crew were very memorable.
I liked the two sequels too. I understood that they were trying to tell a more epic tale. They also went completely into the supernatural and created another classic character, Davy Jones, who looked amazing and had an awesome actor to voice him. The sequels weren't perfect. The sequels were a little long and I was starting to not like the whole Elizabeth and Will romance, which felt overblown at times. I thought Elizabeth had way more chemistry with Jack, and they completely ignored it in AWE.
On Stranger Tides opens in London after a brief scene in Spain. Jack of course makes another great entrance and ends up meeting King George II, who was hilarious. Richard Griffiths played the king as over the top as possible. The King wants the Fountain of Youth and wants Jack to led his crew there. Jack of course doesn't want that and what followed was a great escape scene on the streets of London.
As Jack tries to find a crew for a new adventure he ends up meeting a former girlfriend, Angelica. Angelica was great and played very well by Penelop Cruz. She was actually a woman that I could believe could stand up to Jack and she is of course hot. A problem that I had with Elizabeth was that it always felt like she was a little girl dressed up as pirate.
Eventually Jack is taken aboard Blackbeard's ship. I haven't seen Deadwood, but Ian McShane makes the role his own. He is very evil but also has a sense of humor. Soon Jack is forced to become part of the crew and the rest of the movie follows after that.
The movie didn't have a problem with being a little too long like DMC and AWE were. It was a much more simple story.
The only part that I didn't like was the silly romance between the missionary and the mermaid. It took up way too much time, but it had a nice ending at least. Syrena was hot and I guess the female audience would like Phillip.
Hans Zimmer was also a little lazy with the score. He recycled some of the music from the previous films a too much.
The entire escape scenes in London were very exciting. The place felt huge. I have to thank the director, Rob Marshall, for making the action something I could actually see, and not ruined by stupid shaky cam. He also did a good job making OST look consistent with the previous films, it is hard to tell that there was a change in directors.
We had the great sword fight between Jack and his imposter. The action was good but I wished that it hadn't been quite so dark though. I get that they were trying to hide the opponent's face. I thought it felt very much like Jack and Will's first sword fight in COTBP.
The standout scene of course was the one with the mermaids. They did a great job and picked two really beautiful actresses to be the main mermaids.
Jack was as great as aways and had plenty of funny lines. The audience laughed at them and seemed to really like the movie.
The movie is very fun. For the moment I'll say I liked OST more than DMC and AWE. That might change in the future.
I just saw the movie. I loved it!
My grade is B+ or Above Average.
I've been a fan of the franchise ever since the first. The only reason I saw the first was because a someone told me to check it out, I never really had any interest in pirate movies. I ended up being a big fan of it. The movie was alot of fun and was carried entirely by Johnny Depp. The supporting cast was good too, Rush, Knightley and Bloom. Even the minor characters like Jack and Barbossa's pirate crew were very memorable.
I liked the two sequels too. I understood that they were trying to tell a more epic tale. They also went completely into the supernatural and created another classic character, Davy Jones, who looked amazing and had an awesome actor to voice him. The sequels weren't perfect. The sequels were a little long and I was starting to not like the whole Elizabeth and Will romance, which felt overblown at times. I thought Elizabeth had way more chemistry with Jack, and they completely ignored it in AWE.
On Stranger Tides opens in London after a brief scene in Spain. Jack of course makes another great entrance and ends up meeting King George II, who was hilarious. Richard Griffiths played the king as over the top as possible. The King wants the Fountain of Youth and wants Jack to led his crew there. Jack of course doesn't want that and what followed was a great escape scene on the streets of London.
As Jack tries to find a crew for a new adventure he ends up meeting a former girlfriend, Angelica. Angelica was great and played very well by Penelop Cruz. She was actually a woman that I could believe could stand up to Jack and she is of course hot. A problem that I had with Elizabeth was that it always felt like she was a little girl dressed up as pirate.
Eventually Jack is taken aboard Blackbeard's ship. I haven't seen Deadwood, but Ian McShane makes the role his own. He is very evil but also has a sense of humor. Soon Jack is forced to become part of the crew and the rest of the movie follows after that.
The movie didn't have a problem with being a little too long like DMC and AWE were. It was a much more simple story.
The only part that I didn't like was the silly romance between the missionary and the mermaid. It took up way too much time, but it had a nice ending at least. Syrena was hot and I guess the female audience would like Phillip.
Hans Zimmer was also a little lazy with the score. He recycled some of the music from the previous films a too much.
The entire escape scenes in London were very exciting. The place felt huge. I have to thank the director, Rob Marshall, for making the action something I could actually see, and not ruined by stupid shaky cam. He also did a good job making OST look consistent with the previous films, it is hard to tell that there was a change in directors.
We had the great sword fight between Jack and his imposter. The action was good but I wished that it hadn't been quite so dark though. I get that they were trying to hide the opponent's face. I thought it felt very much like Jack and Will's first sword fight in COTBP.
The standout scene of course was the one with the mermaids. They did a great job and picked two really beautiful actresses to be the main mermaids.
Jack was as great as aways and had plenty of funny lines. The audience laughed at them and seemed to really like the movie.
The movie is very fun. For the moment I'll say I liked OST more than DMC and AWE. That might change in the future.
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I'm a bit surprised that it's Saturday night or Sunday for some and only 12 people have voted in the poll. Legit I saw it and voted posters. Just 12?
I'm a bit surprised that it's Saturday night or Sunday for some and only 12 people have voted in the poll. Legit I saw it and voted posters. Just 12?
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I saw the movie in 2D. I made my choice after hearing all the negative reviews about 3D. These days, I absolutely refuse to see movies in 3D.
I really didn't like the scene after the credits. It wasn't as amusing as the scenes in the first two movies or as important as the scene in the third movie. I felt like I wasted 10 minutes waiting for it.
There will probably be much more votes in the next few days. Several people in the pirates news thread commented that they were seeing it, but still haven't posted yet.
I saw the movie in 2D. I made my choice after hearing all the negative reviews about 3D. These days, I absolutely refuse to see movies in 3D.
Wow, that is a cool theory about Barbossa's ending. I didn't even realize what the writers were trying to do with that. I loved that he got Blackbeard's magic sword and ship at the end.
I think they intentionally left Philip's fate uncertain. If you want a happy ending for them imagine that the mermaid saved him or you can imagine that she made him her meal. They probably want to see if the two characters are popular or not with the audience first, and bring them back if they are.
I think they intentionally left Philip's fate uncertain. If you want a happy ending for them imagine that the mermaid saved him or you can imagine that she made him her meal. They probably want to see if the two characters are popular or not with the audience first, and bring them back if they are.
I really didn't like the scene after the credits. It wasn't as amusing as the scenes in the first two movies or as important as the scene in the third movie. I felt like I wasted 10 minutes waiting for it.
There will probably be much more votes in the next few days. Several people in the pirates news thread commented that they were seeing it, but still haven't posted yet.
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Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I know very few people who are interested in this movie, and even they are not making it a priority. I'll check it out sometime on Netflix...maybe...
Doesn't surprise me in the slightest. I know very few people who are interested in this movie, and even they are not making it a priority. I'll check it out sometime on Netflix...maybe...
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And I know many people that really want to see this movie. Actually the audience that I saw it with this Saturday was pretty large.
And I know many people that really want to see this movie. Actually the audience that I saw it with this Saturday was pretty large.
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I had originally planned on seeing it this weekend, but have too much going on right now to squeeze in time for a movie at the theater. That said, I'm still psyched to see it and was pleased to see that Dream gave it a good review.
I had originally planned on seeing it this weekend, but have too much going on right now to squeeze in time for a movie at the theater. That said, I'm still psyched to see it and was pleased to see that Dream gave it a good review.
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Thanks. It has been a while since I last posted such a long post.
Not interested in Hangover II or Panda II next weekend, so I will probably see OST one more time before checking out X-men: First Class in two weeks.
Thanks. It has been a while since I last posted such a long post.
Not interested in Hangover II or Panda II next weekend, so I will probably see OST one more time before checking out X-men: First Class in two weeks.
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Pirates and Harry Potter were my two big 'must-see' summer flicks, though the new Planet of the Apes film has me interested as well, as it's more connected to the original 1968 movie rather than the abomination that Burton gave us.
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Pirates and Harry Potter were my two big 'must-see' summer flicks, though the new Planet of the Apes film has me interested as well, as it's more connected to the original 1968 movie rather than the abomination that Burton gave us.