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Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Grading

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Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

As much as I love Burton, I don't think his style would mesh too well with POTC. Cuaron on the other hand... make it happen!!!
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Back from seeing Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, which was highly entertaining. Felt more like the first one, and definitely is better than DMC. Surprised how Ian McShane played Blackbeard relatively low-key (compared to the rest of the cast of the series). This is definitely the best way to run the franchise, IMO- standalone romps spaced decently apart.

Rob Marshall isn't as a good a director as Verbinski, though, when it comes to knowing how long to leave a shot to show off the fencing choreography...
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Okay, plotline for part 5. Jack and Barbarossa comptete together to find the lost island of Atlantis where the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is situated and guarded by a fearsome tribe of Amazons (cue Xena/Wonder Woman in- jokes) led by their Queen Marcia Cross (Lynda Carter, Kristine Sutherland etc). Barbarossa allies himself with Bonnie Prince Charlie (and his gruff manservant Billy Connolly) who hopes to fund his reconquest of Britain and Jack with the Duke of Cumberland who hopes to fund Britains war to protect America against the French in 1757.
Meanwhile Penelope Cruz's character from pt 4 is rescued from her exile by female pirate Captain Bonny (like Blackbeard a genuine historical figure) played by Megan Fox and her all female crew. They set out together to find Jack but Bonny has a deep dark secret that she needs to tell him.
I would love to see Ann Bonny as a character in Pirates, they could even tie her real disappearance into the story. A couple weeks ago, I watched a thing all about the real Pirates of the Carribean, and they talked quite a bit about her and she seemed like a really interesting person. Apparently after she was captured and sentenced to death, she disappeared, and nobody knows what happened to her to this day (one theory they mentioned was that her rich father got her out of prison and then hid her somewhere). I could easily see that being tied into a new Pirates story.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Okay, plotline for part 5. Jack and Barbarossa comptete together to find the lost island of Atlantis where the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow is situated and guarded by a fearsome tribe of Amazons (cue Xena/Wonder Woman in- jokes) led by their Queen Marcia Cross (Lynda Carter, Kristine Sutherland etc). Barbarossa allies himself with Bonnie Prince Charlie (and his gruff manservant Billy Connolly) who hopes to fund his reconquest of Britain and Jack with the Duke of Cumberland who hopes to fund Britains war to protect America against the French in 1757.
Meanwhile Penelope Cruz's character from pt 4 is rescued from her exile by female pirate Captain Bonny (like Blackbeard a genuine historical figure) played by Megan Fox and her all female crew. They set out together to find Jack but Bonny has a deep dark secret that she needs to tell him.
I would love to see Ann Bonny as a character in Pirates, they could even tie her real disappearance into the story. A couple weeks ago, I watched a thing all about the real Pirates of the Carribean, and they talked quite a bit about her and she seemed like a really interesting person. Apparently after she was captured and sentenced to death, she disappeared, and nobody knows what happened to her to this day (one theory they mentioned was that her rich father got her out of prison and then hid her somewhere). I could easily see that being tied into a new Pirates story.

Actually how she got away and why she's spared would be part of my idea. Amazed they didn't go with the legend of Blackbeard's corpse.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Actually how she got away and why she's spared would be part of my idea. Amazed they didn't go with the legend of Blackbeard's corpse.

They did refer to it- Jack tells it outright during the film
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Yeah, I saw that scene online a couple days before the movie came out.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

This is definitely the best way to run the franchise, IMO- standalone romps spaced decently apart.

I hope this series pulls a Harry Potter/Twilight and continues to get new directors for each sequel. The thing I really like about that is we get to see how each movie turns out differently because of new directors.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

I don't care what anyone says Tim Burton has GOT to direct one of these. :D
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

I don't care what anyone says Tim Burton has GOT to direct one of these. :D

Ye gods no - the man's done some great work with Depp but these are romps that need a director with an eye for for action choreography.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

I didn't understand what happened to the missionary at the end.

The trailer had made the zombies seem like an important plot point. Only one zombie was there that I could tell, and all he was was an ornery, impossible-to-kill lackey. A chief of the lackeys, mind you, but he didn't affect the plot at all.

And the fountain did look like the Guardian of Forever. Perhaps they're related...

So why did it work even after the Spanish smashed it? If it still worked, they didn't succeed in their mission. So King James or whichever king he was didn't have to worry because the "Catholic Spaniards" didn't want it to exist.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

I didn't understand what happened to the missionary at the end.

The traditional tale (and probably Tim Powers' book) would have it that he became a merman - that that's what happens to sailors dragged below; how else could the species continue - and I was totally expecting that to be the post-credits scene.

As it is, it looks like they just drowned him
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Well finally after two weeks, I should be able to get to see this tomorrow afternoon. I'm pleased that overall, most of the above posts are encouraging, and that it's an improvement over AWE.

Be checking in sometime tomorrow.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Well finally after two weeks, I should be able to get to see this tomorrow afternoon. I'm pleased that overall, most of the above posts are encouraging, and that it's an improvement over AWE.

Be checking in sometime tomorrow.

It's definitely an improvement over DMC. AWE... it's harder to tell, cos I loved it, but so much of that is tied up with it wrapping up a bunch of ongoing stories...

OST is definitely a more standalone movie, and mostly gets the tone right.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

OST has finally made one billion worldwide at the boxoffice! It's about time! :techman:

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $233,703,000 23.2%
+ Foreign: $774,000,000 76.8%
= Worldwide: $1,007,703,000

Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides earned an estimated $6.9 million, which pushed its enormous foreign total to $774 million. Add in its domestic take, and the movie has made $1.007 billion, which places it seventh on the all-time list ahead of The Dark Knight ($1.002 billion) and behind Alice in Wonderland ($1.024 billion). Out of the top seven movies ever, four are from Disney (two Pirates, Toy Story 3 and Alice), and three have Johnny Depp in a lead role.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=3200&p=.htm
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

With three billion-dollar films on his resume, does this officially make Johnny Depp the biggest movie star in the world?
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

I'd say he's been that for several years now, ever since Pirates 2.
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

Is he bigger than Will Smith?
 
Re: Pirates of the Caribbean: On Stranger Tides - Discussion and Gradi

That's a rather personal question, isn't it? :p
 
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