Spoilers Picard Prequel "Children of Mars"
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Ignoring the fact that not everyone who watches "Children of Mars" or Picard has read the prequel comic and that what is onscreen negates any comic books, the idea that they would build an entire evacuation fleet from scratch is ludicrous. We are talking billions of Romulans. That's a huge fleet to build from the ground up. The time and resources involved would be tremendous.
I understand what you're saying. I'm saying that I didn't notice. Because I don't care. And I'm sure that a lot of others won't/don't either.
I liked it. It was shorter but a nice mood setter for sure. Does raise more questions and that just adds to my excite for Picard.
As for the ships. Is it unbelievable Starfleet would reuse older ship designs but inside everything is modern? Simply because someone in command liked the older version and didn't want to wait for something new to be designed? It's just a shell after all. What matters is inside. This would also allow CBS to reuse designs, keep cost down, etc. Now they can't and shouldn't do this for every ship. They've already pulled a ship design from Star Trek Online. The Verity in the Picard countdown comic is an Odyssey class. I imagine we could see other designs CBS already has that were made for Star Trek Online instead of creating brand new ones wholesale going forward. It's content that can be minded.
As for the ships. Is it unbelievable Starfleet would reuse older ship designs but inside everything is modern? Simply because someone in command liked the older version and didn't want to wait for something new to be designed? It's just a shell after all. What matters is inside. This would also allow CBS to reuse designs, keep cost down, etc. Now they can't and shouldn't do this for every ship. They've already pulled a ship design from Star Trek Online. The Verity in the Picard countdown comic is an Odyssey class. I imagine we could see other designs CBS already has that were made for Star Trek Online instead of creating brand new ones wholesale going forward. It's content that can be minded.
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This is a fictional show, so anything is possible. I’m only going by what the producers have told us based on their tie-in literature for the show.
And that’s fine that you don’t care. I do. Are my issues any more valid or invalid than yours?
I do think that TNG Era ships will show up in the show, they went to the effort of showing a hologram of a Galaxy Class in one of the trailers after all and there is even that old TOS Romulan ship in a few and I think they now know full well that if you try to go back and alter the aesthetics of something already established like the Klingons in Discovery then the fans are going to have issues with it.
I have no problem with them mixing some DSC ships in there too
As for the synth's, they are probably developed using technology from B4/Data/Lore hence why the body parts are in some sort of storage facility in the first trailer, I presume Picard handed B4/Bits of Data over in the past and it's now hit the fan he may feel personally responsible for the deaths.
I have no problem with them mixing some DSC ships in there too
As for the synth's, they are probably developed using technology from B4/Data/Lore hence why the body parts are in some sort of storage facility in the first trailer, I presume Picard handed B4/Bits of Data over in the past and it's now hit the fan he may feel personally responsible for the deaths.
Of course not. I'm just suggesting another viewpoint.
So apparently they decided to borrow ship designs from the Discoprise universe. I just hope that the ships are actually supposed to be old and not some reimagined, late 24th century design.
Also, according to Countdown, Geordi was head of Utopia Planitia. Does that mean he died in the attacks?
Maybe it really was Picard’s fault and the androids attacked due to some gullible planning from Picard. After all, he seemed to be one of the head honchos in Starfleet during that time...
Edit: Wait a minute! It is all a giant clusterfuck! So it seems, that this short trek episode plays one year after countdown comics and before Star Trek Picard.
So i guess the story goes like this: Androids destroy utopia planitia, Federation is unable to supply the Romulans with more rescue ships. Picard is torn between helping the romulans from yuyat beta and defending the Federation. Romulus blows up, romulans are mad at Picard for not helping more, Federation is mad at Picard for not helping his own solar system. Picard resigns...
Also, according to Countdown, Geordi was head of Utopia Planitia. Does that mean he died in the attacks?
Maybe it really was Picard’s fault and the androids attacked due to some gullible planning from Picard. After all, he seemed to be one of the head honchos in Starfleet during that time...
Edit: Wait a minute! It is all a giant clusterfuck! So it seems, that this short trek episode plays one year after countdown comics and before Star Trek Picard.
So i guess the story goes like this: Androids destroy utopia planitia, Federation is unable to supply the Romulans with more rescue ships. Picard is torn between helping the romulans from yuyat beta and defending the Federation. Romulus blows up, romulans are mad at Picard for not helping more, Federation is mad at Picard for not helping his own solar system. Picard resigns...
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So business as usual then?
Eh, how much "modern" designs did we really see in the 90s? In TNG, aside from the Galaxy class, a good majority of the Starfleet ships were from the TOS movies. Okay, there was the Constellation class which was meant to be an older design and intentionally modeled to fit in with the TOS movie lineage, and the Ambassador class meant to be an in-between step after the TOS movie era but before TNG's modern era. The next truly "modern" Starfleet ship we see on TNG is the Nebula class in the fourth season, but I think that's it for TNG. Afterwards, we get the Defiant and Intrepid classes, but we only get those because they were the hero ships of DS9 and Voyager. It isn't until First Contact they really go to town with new modern designs, and its only because of taking those ships that DS9's Dominion War fleets have so many "modern" ships, and even then there's still many Excelsiors and Mirandas among the fleets. The only other modern Starfleet designs seen in the 90s were the Prometheus and Nova classes, and they weren't seen all that often.
But what we didn’t see in TNG, DS9, or VOY were any ships from TOS or before as ships on active duty, much less as brand new ships being constructed as Picard:Countdown and COM implies.
Edit: It’s possible that the ships shown in COM are not part of the Romulan evacuation fleet, but until more info is forthcoming I’m going to assume they were.
True, but what it comes down to is that Disco is currently in production, therefore Picard is just going to borrow Starfleet designs from Disco to save money. Especially since Picard isn't really supposed to be about Starfleet per se. And if I really wanted to stir the pot, I could point out the Akira class does technically predate TOS... 
The least they could have done was change the designs a little so that they didn’t look exactly like how they look in DSC.
And if I really wanted to stir the pot, I could point out the Akira class does technically predate TOS...
Don’t go there...
What's are those ships behind/infront of Magee class?
I mean we’ve already seen a hologram of a Galaxy class.I'm thinking that They just don't give a chit anymore about maintaining any of the aspects of previous Trek Starship incarnations of Trek.
Nor do They really care if the older fans are bothered by it.
Ah good old Akiraprise. I think it's very relevant in this case if it ends up that these are NOT Discovery ship classes but just look kinda like them
They are the tugs from the first episode of DSC season 2.
You know, there was a Crossfield Class ship in TSFS deep in the background and in the debris wreckage in "The Best of Both Worlds". They classified Discovery. They didn't classify the entire class of Starship. And no doubt they "updated" the way it looked in the 2280s, 2360s, and now 2380s. People saying "Oh no!" are barking up the wrong tree.
Geez. I'm all geared up for Picard here! I don't want to talk about Discovery right now. (Go ahead, you out there in the reading audience, yes YOU! Use the last porition of what I just said as a soundbite, you know you want to...
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Anyway. I'm going to put on "Children of Mars" now.
Geez. I'm all geared up for Picard here! I don't want to talk about Discovery right now. (Go ahead, you out there in the reading audience, yes YOU! Use the last porition of what I just said as a soundbite, you know you want to...
)Anyway. I'm going to put on "Children of Mars" now.
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But why would the Romulans, that live at Picard's vineyard, in this case respect admire him so much?
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