Discussion in 'Star Trek: Picard' started by sovereign, May 8, 2023.
we’ve spent years without any kind of Trek in the past, we’ll survive.
I mean, I would not call Star Trek: The Motion Picture, Star Trek III: The Search for Spock, or Star Trek V: The Final Frontier as "great," but I'm glad you enjoy them.
We're in the 2nd Gilded Age so, yeah, it's not going to be fair, but hopefully better.
Now that's an interesting alt-history of the 2010's!
Have you given the A24 slate a try? Many of their films are on Showtime.
This is the first I've ever heard of A24. I'm looking it up right now, and seems right up my ally.
EDITED TO ADD: A24 has the possibly of becoming the Early-21st Century equivalent of New Hollywood, or at least what would lead to it. (Which I guess would make it the new French New Wave, even though it's not French.)
Here's a GQ oral history of the studio... which includes a quote from Patrick Stewart, so this isn't completely off topic
"We talk about that all the time," Kurtzman says. "Is there a movie version? Doing a movie is different – it's two hours right? So it's different than doing 10. You know, anything is possible, truly."
Any Star Trek movie, for the foreseeable future, will likely* be one of these upcoming biennial "TV movies."
*Barring any miracles by Paramount in regards to actually producing another Kelvin film.
I'd argue, with both of those films, that they were Hugh Jackman films with Patrick Stewart as a secondary lead (arguably Days of Future is a McAvoy and Fassbender as secondary male leads plus Lawrence as female lead though).
To butcher a Family Guy quote, not one is going to see the Seth Green film Austin Powers to see Scotty Evil.
Or to use a more comparable actor, no one is going to see that Oscar Isaac film Star Wars about Poe Dameron.
Vis-a-vis my comments on the future of theatrical movie experiences (vs home movies), I thought this tweet thread by Justine Bateman on this subject and AI was contemplative:
I'm thinking it will be an "event" TV movie like the upcoming Section 31. Trek is expensive to produce and while it has a dedicated fanbase, it's never been as big as Star Wars or Marvel to justify a theatrical release.
On a personal note, I don't go to the movies much anymore because the price for tickets and concessions are downright insulting at this point. So I'm fine with keeping Trek a TV property.
This is what I meant in an earlier post...imagine a world where an entertainment consumer can essentially order up content that fits their exact taste and preference down to the most minuscule sub-variation that will then be written by and AI, created by computers using AI versions of physical actor models and their voices, and displayed to the consumer.
"Computer, create a 10 episode run of a season of Star Trek Deep Space Nine that takes place after the events of "What you Leave Behind" and features a return of Benjamin Sisko. Omit the Rom character, and no holosuite episodes."
"Computer, recreate the series Star Trek Voyager using the same characters and assets where tensions between Maquis and Starfleet are never resolved and damage to the USS Voyager is cumulative and can only be repaired in-universe."
It sounds farfetched but we are approaching a point where such things will become *technically* possible. At first, they won't be any good, and they'll be obvious fakes. But they'll keep getting better...and have pretty dramatic cultural implications...
this is definitely coming and earlier than most expect. And yes, it will be a huge societal shift, even if only a part of the enormous shift AI is going to cause in the next few years.
I’m looking forward to it, even if it is hard to avoid being scared by it at the same time.
It just occurred to me that there will be a HUGE volume of adult content created...
”will”? That is already happening! That industry is always a pioneer in adopting new technologies.
There already are AI programs that will create pictures of nude people. Porn will always find a way.
Reading that sentence now has me imagining the Jurassic Park theme.
Right but what I mean is imagine fan-conceived AI generated porn, way beyond current deepfake technology, or maybe a more sophisticated version of this. I wonder if and how companies and actors who license their appearance and voices will be able to regulate this if they don't want their likenesses used in this way. It's going to be an interesting new world in this area....
i don’t need to imagine it: it is *already happening*. I have no interest in trying those, but there are already several programs that allow the user to build avatars to their liking and have them perform actions of their liking. Of course they’re still rudimentary, but they will evolve fast.
Seems like Star Wars is the only descent Sci-Fi movie that does good at the movie theatre. Movie theatres are also going the way of the dinosaur. A slow, but sure extinction.
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