Discussion in 'Science and Technology' started by pl1ngpl0ng, Dec 17, 2017.
They've seen flying objects that they couldn't identify. That much is true.
I for one welcome our new lense flare overlords.
This. It doesn't mean they've seen aliens. People seem to confuse what the statements actually mean often.
True, any flying object that you can't identify is a UFO.
But I do wonder there must be some percentage of these sightings that could possibly be an actual non Earth craft.
Why? Just because lots of people claim to see them? Lots of people claim to see Jesus in waffles and all other odd places. Does that mean a percentage of them are actually seeing Jesus?
No it doesn't.......
But I'd like to be optimistic here and think that maybe one or two actual sightings were the real deal as far as the UFO sightings go, the other thing no comment.
I don't believe whether people have actually seen aliens or not is optimistic or pessimistic.
I've heard about their cookery book - "To Serve Man".
It's some number between zero and one hundred, inclusive.
But it's highly revealing when you see how many mistakes are made. Like those lens flares. Those pilots were absolutely convinced that they were witnessing UFOs in action. The clip is just that... a clip. No doubt, later they would've realized their mistake. Was that portion captured on video? If it was, certainly the folks who WANT to propagate the "aliens are here" narrative will leave that out. How many other reports have this where there's mistaken claims of UFO's only to be later debunked... but that debunking is not kept along with the original report?
Living creatures age and die. Here on Earth, human beings usually die before the age of 100. Even assuming an alien species that has found a way to extend that, let's be generous and call it 500 years... That's still less than a "blink of an eye" relative to the time required for space travel across vast distances. The tremendous risk and investment for a space faring alien species to just come visit Earth for a bit then go back home... think of it. Ridiculous. That's why I'm fully convinced no biological manifestation of alien life has come here. Robotic? Now that's more of a possibility...
Von Neumann probes are a possibility, though why they seem to be programmed to dick about is another matter.
An alien civilization advanced enough to travel the stars with ease will be advanced enough to avoid detection by the primitive technology of Cletus and Enos Geewillickers.
The idea that any alien race is harnessing the fantastic energies required to traverse the immense gulf between the stars just to murder some cows, butt-probe a few backwoods yokels, and play tag with jet fighters is just... goofy.
Bug in the software..... Doesn't explain anal probing.
Or psychotic.... Aliens are serial killers in training. haha
The CPU takes "to boldly go where no-one has gone before" too literally?
I recall that Bablyon 5 had some fun with this in regards to the Vree, who are the equivalent of grays and were tremendously amused by how their actions on 20th century Earth - which were largely for scientific curiosity - had such an impact on human culture.
And all this time I thought it was a Canada Goose with a short neck biological defect and/or natural selection showing something better that all its other birdbrained friends would summarily reject... :\
I think we would be mistaken to think we have any conception as to what might possibly motivate visiting
That said, I personally really enjoy the Zoo Theory, because it warms my heart to consider
the sheer amusement we must be providing them.
One thing IS absolutely certain in all this: there is SOMETHING going on up there. What that
might be, we will probably never know. We will have eradicated the aspects of higher civilization
before long, and they will again become "gods" to the sad primitives left behind.
I'm not so sure about that. We don't have any conclusive evidence at this point. And think of this -- the proliferation of recording devices that now pervade our society, as every phone as the capability of taking photos and a great many can record HD video. Despite all this, there was no massive spike of credible UFO videos and photos. Of course, with the advent of digital editing being available to anyone willing to try it, there has been a plethora of fakes...
I hope I'm wrong, that perhaps there is some extraterrestrial intelligence that has visited us and with their remote probes unable to account for every contingency... thus getting briefly "caught in the act" from time to time. I'm just waiting for that solid incontrovertible proof!
I can't fine the link but some astronomer made the huge claim that that funky asteroid with a name like Omarossa is a Von Neuman Probe..
Don't ask me how these people get these crazy ideas.
Because it's a valid idea as to how the universe might actually be explored by thinking beings in a reasonable time frame? It is somewhat misnamed - John von Neumann came up with the concept of universal assemblers but not of using them as space probes. The probe concept might date from as late as the 70s.
The name of the object is 'Oumuamua by the way. If it were really a Von Neumann probe, I would expect it to slow down and harvest raw materials to make copies of itself. Perhaps its inherent protocols might forbid this if it detects that a system appears to be home to intelligent life. Probably it's just a rock with a bizarre aspect ratio that we have yet to explain.
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