Pentagon release UFO video

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  1. bigglesworth

    bigglesworth Lieutenant Commander Red Shirt

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    Regarding the Pentagon video, the pilot was interviewed and described some of the incredible maneuvers the object performed.

    Obviously what the pilot saw was not a conventional aircraft. If this aircraft is man made, it probably didn't have a human pilot. The G forces from the maneuvers described by the pilot would most likely have killed any human in there. So, we're talking some sort of drone, with an incredible thrust to weight ratio, some sort of thurst vectoring, an airframe that can handle the stresses described by the pilot (like a ping pong ball, bouncing off a wall...) and probably a dozen other things I haven't considered.
     
  2. bigglesworth

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  3. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    Observations

    #1.
    The video clips "GIMBAL"

    and
    "FLIR1"


    are NOT an official Pentagon release as part of any disclosure,
    they are simply approved for public
    release.

    (However Pentagon spokeswoman Dana White confirmed to POLITICO
    that the program existed and was run by Luis Elizondo.)


    #2.
    The release of the video's comes from:
    TTSA To The Stars Academy...
    https://dpo.tothestarsacademy.com/

    Tom Delonge, Luis Elizondo, two other former DOD officials and a handfull of others are running a
    crowdfunding company asking for
    money to "unlock revolutionary innovation" like:

    "beamed energy propulsion"
    "Advanced electrogravitic propulsion"
    "brain-computer interface"
    And "engineering the space-time metric"

    Possible here hinting that they are sitting
    on the "strange metal alloys" that
    the New York times was reporting
    being held in modified buildings in
    Las Vegas for storage,
    and that they have access to advanced technology (?)

    Note:
    POLITICO that published the same article, at the same time as NYT, did
    NOT mention these alloys.

    link POLITICO article
    https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/12/16/pentagon-ufo-search-harry-reid-216111

    The New York Time are the ONLY
    one hinting at such claims:

    link NYT article
    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/12/...arry-reid.html?referer=https://www.google.no/

    here is one of the authors
    Ralph Blumenthal of the New York Times
    piece on MSNBC talking about these alloys/materials:


    These claims are NOT confirmed
    by anyone.

    #3.
    Two years ago Tom Delonge also said in an interview
    with Motherboard podcasting that
    A source "that is of the highest level and rank in a very specific division of the Department of Defense" told Tom Delonge that
    "they have found a life form"

    At 37:03 in the podcast :
    "he looked away and he looked me back in the eye, and he goes, 'We found a life form."

    --

    Tom Delonge refuse to name
    the source of these "life form"claims when asked by
    Motherboard 22 dec 2017:
    https://motherboard.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/59w3zq/tom-delonge-nytimes-ufo-aliens-comparison


    #4.
    TTSA To The Stars Academy
    also ask for money to produce
    Movies, television series and publishing. (?)


    #5.
    Tom Delonge talks alot about
    chain-of-custody documentation
    when in fact
    there are No information to be
    found about the "GIMBAL" video,
    no data about time or place and
    the pilots chating in the video are
    not identified.

    This is a serious breach in Tom Delonges own description of the video:
    "This footage, and all official USG footage you will see on TTS Academy’s Community of Interest (COI), comes with essential chain-of-custody documentation validating that it is received in its original and unaltered form and is authentic"

    https://coi.tothestarsacademy.com/gimbal/

    But... There is No information to be found about this 30sec clip called "GIMBAL".


    #6.
    The "FLIR1" video are the only one
    with information like
    location/date (outside the coast of San Diego in 2004)
    and an identified pilot (David Fravor.)
    The Pilot David Fravor talks about
    his experience on several channels:

    CNN:
    http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/12/20/david-fravor-intv-us-navy-pilot-ufo-encounter-sot-ebof.cnn

    Note: CNN mix the two videos
    together treating them as 1 incident.

    ABC news:


    Note: abc news plays x-files clips
    and talks about Star wars.


    Fox news :
    http://video.foxnews.com/v/5688855197001/?#sp=show-clips

    Note: here the pilot are taken
    somewhat more serious and
    the anchor Tucker Carlson seems
    genuinely intrigued by this.
    Fox News are mixing the two
    Video clips.


    #7.

    The pilot David Fravor mention
    that there was four (4) pilots
    In the air witnessing the 2004 nimitz
    Sighting, FLIR1.

    These pilots have not come forward.


    #8.
    The two videos are parts of a
    three video release,
    the video nr 3 have not yet surfaced.

    ---------------


    So... What do we really know for sure now 17 days after the New York Times article?

    #1.
    Pentagon did run a program from
    2007 to 2012 called :
    the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program.
    It was lead by by a military intelligence official, Luis Elizondo, now retired.

    #2.
    A Company called TTSA
    (To The Stars Academy)
    Now Involving Luis Elizondo,
    are releasing drops of video clips
    while asking for money

    #3.
    The pilot David Fravor saw someting
    In the air In 2004 that he could not explain.

    --
    Conclusion:
    While im certainly hoping for
    amazing news in 2018, my enthusiasm are barely lukewarm now after digging around looking
    after some hard facts...
    At this stage there are absolutely
    nothing solid to be found.

    Pl1ng
     
  4. BillJ

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    There it is. Hoping the public is stupid enough to help them live the good life. I half-expect Alec Peters to be somehow involved in this company. :lol:

    Seriously, if they had anything worthwhile, people like Elon Musk would be pouring cash into their endeavor.
     
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  5. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    A rockstar that write books about
    UFO'S are suddenly in cooperation
    with a bunch of highly ranked Intelligence Officers from CIA, the Department of Defense and the Director of National Intelligence etc...?
    there is something wonderful strange about this picture.

    No, wait.... I can see whats going
    on now.


    This is a perfectly orchestrated
    disclosure coming.
    How else would you reveal the most earth shattering
    news this planet have ever seen
    to the public without creating complete mayhem?

    You release a little truth with
    the same amount of lie and
    you get just enough evidence out
    to make the public think, but you
    start with evidence that also can
    be disputed and explained away.

    slowly but surely
    the evidence/truth will become
    stronger and harder to refuse.

    Along the way you will have different official branches contradict each other and the
    media playing along where ridicule
    and seriousness will go hand in hand.

    By the end of this, in 6 to 12 months, when the truth really
    is out... We all be exhausted by
    the constant back and forth but
    also relieved that everyone finaly
    are on the same page,
    we will treat the truth like
    "old news ".... i.e NO mayhem.


    There are 24 videos in total to be
    revealed... We have seen the first two and we will see 2 to 4 videos each month during the next half year to a year.


    This is actually more exciting than Star Trek.
     
  6. BillJ

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    As much as I would love for proof of alien existence, I think you're drinking way too much of the Kool-Aid here. I simply think that a species that mastered interstellar travel would be able to hide itself from a bunch of folks who are barely above the apes.

    Star Trek and other sci-fi has created this idea of aliens being bumbling idiots. I really doubt that is the case.
     
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  7. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    Lol... :hugegrin:
     
  8. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    And to soften the "blow" of this
    amazing news further
    the public needs to ease into it by
    getting used to the idea that
    at least the existence of
    extraterrestrial microbial life are abundant....

    [November 27, 2017]
    http://tass.com/science/977591
    "Scientists have found living bacteria from outer space on the surface of the Russian segment of the International Space Station (ISS). They are being studied on Earth but most likely they don’t pose any sort of danger"
    ---

    [December 21, 2017]
    https://www.universityofcalifornia....-microorganisms-indicate-life-universe-common
    "A new analysis of the oldest known fossil microorganisms provides strong evidence to support an increasingly widespread understanding that life in the universe is common."

    To be continued....
     
  9. Tetragrammaton Invictus

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    That would assume that the message of Jesus was done on other worlds as well as ours..... That would be a huge assumption.
     
  10. BillJ

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    Life being common does not equate to intelligent alien life having visited Earth, or that intelligent alien life has mastered the ability to traverse interstellar space.
     
  11. Balok's Decoy

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    GODFUCKINGDAMMIT.
     
  12. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    I agree of course :-) and i was not trying
    to say anything like that. I was saying this:
    And then i provided a quote and the link to the university of California, simply to show the bigger picture (that every thing we now hear about space/extraterrestrial lifeforms etc are all a part of the big plan of disclosure)
    All this with my tinfoil-hat firmly attached to my head of course:-)
     
  13. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    New video...
    this dont reveal much news.
    It is a more detailed interview with
    Commander David Fravor, U.S Navy (Ret) tho, and some new information like "sightings of a craft under water" are being unveiled here.

    A little underwhelming in termes of "ufo-eyecandy" but certainly in the spirit and pace of a "slow disclosure".

     
  14. BillJ

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    The longer people realize they don't have anything, the longer they can crowdfund from the stupid! :guffaw:
     
  15. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    This thing are going to culminate
    in a real disclosure with ufo's at the end (wow),
    or a gigant elaborated scam...(wow)

    Either way we got a real life soap opera on our hands! :-D:biggrin:
     
  16. Tetragrammaton Invictus

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    Yay...........

    Good thing I found this....... They knew their show was about to be cancelled so this is what the producers did to middle finger the studio and the fans...

     
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  17. pl1ngpl0ng

    pl1ngpl0ng Commander Red Shirt

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    Haha that was a cool clip, i did watched Dynasty when it aired but i never saw the Colbys, what a way to end it! =)
     
  18. Tetragrammaton Invictus

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    By then the ratings had tanked so that was why they got cancelled and this was a huge middle finger to the fans and the studio.

    Mind you Fallon of all characters? Why couldn't they have taken Alexis. She would be right at home with aliens LOL.

    The comedy series Soap also had a UFO take Katherine Helmond's character for a spin.
     
  19. publiusr

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    I don't even think it is even that sophisticated.
    Notice how the "object" never moves outside of the reticle--the pipper if you will. I think it is a daub of paint on a lens.

    That's the question. For this to have been an actual alien craft, I want to see gun cameras from two planes. One plane sees the wingman follow the object, which out turns the fighter and gets on the wingman's "six" Two different perspectives, with the object not staying rock steady--center of frame.


    As far as the UFO story here is concermed:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/head-of-pentagons-secret-ufo-office-sought-to-make-evidence-public/2017/12/16/90bcb7cc-e2b2-11e7-8679-a9728984779c_story.html?hpid=hp_rhp-top-table-main_ufos-750pmk:homepage/story&utm_term=.43f62561896e

    A UFO believer with money (Bigelow?) asks a Senator to do an investigation--like Harry Reid.

    Then this document is released so folks can say..."See...we told you they were still looking"
     
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  20. Tetragrammaton Invictus

    Tetragrammaton Invictus I like the new Doctor Premium Member

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    OK seriously if there is some kind of disclosure how would you personally react?