You're in a bit of a slump about fandom generally these days I think. Focus on your own enjoyment and don't let folks get you down.
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You're in a bit of a slump about fandom generally these days I think. Focus on your own enjoyment and don't let folks get you down.
Because I see the same trends being repeated as I saw with Abrams Trek. Insults towards actors and writers, fixated on tiny details rather than a story as a whole, timing debates and the like.
It's not fun. It's frustrating because we'll any enjoyment is buried by a post mortem analysis that seeks to draw ever detail out to condem modern episodes as not Trek.
Probably take a break from this season. Just not fun any more.
There's an alternative take. Chong has been praised from many corners for her performance.
A time travel episode where the course of the future is at stake isn't "Trek trappings?" In what universe?
They've done "one man shows" before. "Captain's Holiday" comes to mind.
I got upset over the ENT finale because it was a steaming pile of Cardassian vole poop and disrespected the cast of the very series it was concluding. There's a difference.
Discussion is a bit more rounded in TNZ when it comes to SNW.
I understand the need to take a break though. Just don't check out for too long.
A time travel episode where the course of the future is at stake isn't "Trek trappings?" In what universe?
They've done "one man shows" before. "Captain's Holiday" comes to mind.
Well by trappings I mean lots of aliens, space ships, warping etc.
And as I mentioned in the SNW thread I felt when there was 26 episodes a season these dalliances felt more acceptable. I didn't dislike the SNW episode, and Chong is all sorts of wonderful, but it's just last week was a court scene (an excellent one at that, the most Trek thing in years), this week was modern Trek... they're big chunks of a small season. I just don't want to lose the magic of exploration.
None of those are needed for Star Trek to be Star Trek. Anyway, this episode feature a couple of aliens and two versions of a space ship.
That's supposed to impress me? An appeal to authority? Nope. You're just a guy posting on a BBS like the rest of us. I've watched Trek since 1966 and have discussed almost since then. All that means is I'm old
My interpretation of your intention is just that. If I'm wrong so be it. Could be me or it could be you're not clear in what you say and how you say it,
No, it's meant to say I can have an opinion and you will not quell me.
Respect others. You're taking little fragments of what I say and trying to say I'm wrong. When also I think you know exactly what I mean by things like "trappings". it's an earth-based show with one cast member primarily, it's different to normal. I liked it too, I just said I don't want too many like this as I like exploration episodes.
Which is my opinion. And won't change. My job is not to be clear to you. Move on if you don't get it or don't like it.
Respect others. You're taking little fragments of what I say and trying to say I'm wrong. When also I think you know exactly what I mean by things like "trappings". it's an earth-based show with one cast member primarily, it's different to normal. I liked it too, I just said I don't want too many like this as I like exploration episodes.
Which is my opinion. And won't change. My job is not to be clear to you. Move on if you don't get it or don't like it.
Who's quelling you? We're having a discussion. A back and forth. It's a discussion board it' what we do here. If I feel the "fragment" is what's wrong that's what I will quote and comment on. Again, that's how this works. Your opinions do not exist in a vacuum, exempt from response. You claim a Trek episode has to have aliens, spaceships and warp travel. I disagree post that in response. Why? Because none are need to tell a story in the Trek milieu. That's my opinion.
Yes, your "job" is to be clear to me. And mine is to be clear to you. That's part of the "social contract" of discourse. Again in my opinion.
I get exactly what youre saying. One of my favorite TOS eps is The Corbomite Manuever. Eps like that are getting far and few between these days. Just a ep with them encountering something strange and terrifying in space. No politics, no time travel, no romulans, no klingons etc. Just them out it an unexplored area finding something new. The original series didnt have great effects and sets all the time but it did feel like they were out there just exploring.
No, you don't discuss you keep saying "You're wrong". Over and over. And it gets tiresome.
I never said you need those things. "You claim a Trek episode has to have aliens, spaceships and warp travel." I never ONCE said that. Not. ONCE. You're inventing stuff and using that as a basis for your so-called discussion.
You have posted about 90k posts I see. You might do better if you stopped, read, and thought about what people are saying and if you feel you have something to contribute. Because spraying posts at people particularly about stuff you are imagining is very tiresome. Please stop responding to me.
I never said you need those things. "You claim a Trek episode has to have aliens, spaceships and warp travel." I never ONCE said that. Not. ONCE. You're inventing stuff and using that as a basis for your so-called discussion.
You have posted about 90k posts I see. You might do better if you stopped, read, and thought about what people are saying and if you feel you have something to contribute. Because spraying posts at people particularly about stuff you are imagining is very tiresome. Please stop responding to me.
Exactly this. Thank you. I'm not saying Star Trek should be purely this. I showed VOY's the "The Fear" to a friend the other day as I love it. It's not typical Voyager. I also am not saying I disliked the last SNW, as I did quite enjoy it. But in a short run as I said above "I don't want too many like this as I like exploration episodes".
It's such an innocuous opinion as well, to be hammered over.
Exactly this. Thank you. I'm not saying Star Trek should be purely this. I showed VOY's the "The Fear" to a friend the other day as I love it. It's not typical Voyager. I also am not saying I disliked the last SNW, as I did quite enjoy it. But in a short run as I said above "I don't want too many like this as I like exploration episodes".
It's such an innocuous opinion as well, to be hammered over.
Oh yeah. I havent seen that ep in years. I love it. I need to rewatch voyager soon.
Hmmm
Perhaps you should do the same. You seem very on edge when people disagree with you,
People are so nice around here
Most of the community is, and I don't think this person means malice...
It's best just to remove yourself from a situation if it doesn't work for you.
Let's get back on topic.
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