Didn't pick that up on my B/W tv in the 60's.Hazel.
Paul Wesley's incarnation of James T. Kirk
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God, I am slogging my way through the last SNW right now, and just finding it impossible because of the charmlessness of Wesley in the role.
Casting has been such a consistent bright spot in the streaming era of Trek. A near perfect success rate. For me there have been only two notable failures: Brett Gray as Dal on Prodigy, and Wesley here. Every other legacy recast till this one has been an absolute home-run in my book.
It's just... ugh. It's one of those performances that feels so inert and undynamic every minute, it actively pushes me out. I usually watch all Trek with total focus, but this performance is so poor this episode is hard to watch. I keep drifting off from it, getting easily distracted -- not an experience I typically have with Trek.
Also, the writers aren't doing him any favors with the throwaway alternate-timeline nature of these stories. Kirk isn't someone you trot out for a gimmick, which is what this feels like so far.
Casting has been such a consistent bright spot in the streaming era of Trek. A near perfect success rate. For me there have been only two notable failures: Brett Gray as Dal on Prodigy, and Wesley here. Every other legacy recast till this one has been an absolute home-run in my book.
It's just... ugh. It's one of those performances that feels so inert and undynamic every minute, it actively pushes me out. I usually watch all Trek with total focus, but this performance is so poor this episode is hard to watch. I keep drifting off from it, getting easily distracted -- not an experience I typically have with Trek.
Also, the writers aren't doing him any favors with the throwaway alternate-timeline nature of these stories. Kirk isn't someone you trot out for a gimmick, which is what this feels like so far.
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Kirk shouldn't be in it at all. Treating him as a gimmick is better than the inevitable replacement of Pike because "we're moving to TOS."
Ugh. Give me a gimmick over that.
Ugh. Give me a gimmick over that.
I'm open to him being in it. I mean, my preference would be that he isn't, but certainly I've heard enough Trek ideas that sounded terrible, until I saw them executed brilliantly. So when Kirk was announced I had my negative response and then thought "we'll see!"
But ugh this is grim.
Does anyone know how many episodes he's in, by any chance?
Praying he is quickly hustled off the stage, a miscast this disastrous can become a showkiller if it's expected to carry any dramatic weight.
He won't be. This the march towards TOS, grim as some may find it.
Not the way you imagine.
As for "Praying he is quickly hustled off the stage...," I am done.
Eh. I wouldn't complain and commiserate in the forums if we didn't see him anymore but he's done a serviceable job in his two appearances and he hasn't made nor broken anything. Last week's episode was a whole lot of time travel and alternate timeline fun and his Kirk was a big part of what made that episode for me.
Naturally.
Indeed. It ain't happening.As for "Praying he is quickly hustled off the stage...," I am done.
My main problem with him is he looks too much like Jim Carrey. Other than that, I think he's doing a serviceable job. It has to be difficult to take over a role that's so iconic.
I just think there's too much Kirk in this prequel. This show should be about Pike's ship and crew and their experiences.
Agreed. But that ship has left Stardock. So, if he must be in there he is doing fine.
He's not Shatner? I'm ok with that. He's not playing Shatner.
He does have at least one more appearance in S2, and you can expect him to resemble Shatner's Kirk a little bit more the more we see him.
Part of the reason for bringing Kirk into S2 in the first place is that Ansen Mount was on paternity leave during filming of the first 3 episodes - presumably they filmed those handful of scenes he's in out of order so he wouldn't need to be on set those weeks.
Part of the reason for bringing Kirk into S2 in the first place is that Ansen Mount was on paternity leave during filming of the first 3 episodes - presumably they filmed those handful of scenes he's in out of order so he wouldn't need to be on set those weeks.
I think he's going to charm his way into my heart sooner rather than later.
this is where I’m at. We’ve seen two different alternate versions of Kirk not yet the actual SNW version of the character. There was a big improvement from the S1 finale to this episode. The guy deserves a chance to play the proper pre-TOS Kirk.
if they cast him to play a pre-TOS James T. Kirk he deserves the chance to play the part. Otherwise why bother.
It suits the stories they want to tell.
And it makes perfect sense for the show. The producers rightly understood that until Kirk appeared in some way on the show a substantial part of the fanbase would be waiting for the other shoe to drop.
I don’t disagree that Kirk shouldn’t be on the show.
Agree to disagree on the deserve thing.
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