Only the good ones, season 5
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I think season 5 is very strong. It has many outstanding episodes, I think, and does a great job of moving the overall story forward at a great pace.
Still, it's not without its flaws. In fact, while I'd rate it higher than season 4, it's got substantially more clunkers in my view.
Here's a quick overview of the episodes I left out:
- Looking for Par'mach in all the Wrong Places: I enjoy this episode. There's some funny moments (especially concerning Worf 'driving' Quark), there's some nice character moments especially where Quark is concerned and it's generally good fun. However, I think it's really not needed at all and it's not THAT much fun so I think the beginning of the season benefits from dropping this one.
- The Assignment: I think this episode is ok. However, I feel it suffers from standing out too much as a Torture O'Brien show (TM) as well as not feeling like the beginning of something ongoing such as the struggle between the Wraiths and the Prophets. As a consequence, I don't think this one is needed.
- Let He who is without Sin...: I don't think this needs ANY explanation.
- The Darkness and the Light: I think this episode is one that could have been a lot more. It handles difficult subjects, and it's interesting to see Kira's past catch up with her. However, although the Major is a hot head, I don't think she's THIS stupid and irresponsible. That's stretching it too far in my opinion. And that's the main reason I'd want to drop this one.
- A Simple Investigation: Yawn. As simple as that. It really does pretty much nothing for me.
- Ferengi Love Songs: One of the less bearable Ferengi outings. The season would definitely benefit from dropping this one.
- Children of Time: This is an episode I wish I could like. Basically, all the ingredients are there: It's an interesting sci-fi concept that creates an interesting problem which really gets to the heart and core of our characters. Here, the ending screws the entire thing for me. I was really afraid they'd take the usual Trek path - the Heroes are willing to sacrifice their lives (even if that doesn't mean dying in this case) - and sadly, they did just that. It bothers me for a number of reasons. The main problem for me lies with Sisko. There's something like 6000 people on this planet but there's billions of people whose lives he's influencing back on DS9. He's the Captain of one of the most important Federation outposts AND he's the Emissary. There's no doubt in my mind that that outweighs the people on the planet easily. And Sisko should know that. Another thing about it is that in my view, one crew member aboard the Defiant who DOESN'T want to be stranded on the planet but wants to go home should be enough for Sisko to HAVE TO bring the ship back to DS9. I don't think there's anyway he could order his crew to do what they do. And I don't, even for a second, believe that there's not at least one crew member who wants to go back right until the very end. But we see none of this - it's tidily swept under the rug. It's such a shame because this episode IMHO borders on being a classic but then just totally crashes.
Still, it's not without its flaws. In fact, while I'd rate it higher than season 4, it's got substantially more clunkers in my view.
Here's a quick overview of the episodes I left out:
- Looking for Par'mach in all the Wrong Places: I enjoy this episode. There's some funny moments (especially concerning Worf 'driving' Quark), there's some nice character moments especially where Quark is concerned and it's generally good fun. However, I think it's really not needed at all and it's not THAT much fun so I think the beginning of the season benefits from dropping this one.
- The Assignment: I think this episode is ok. However, I feel it suffers from standing out too much as a Torture O'Brien show (TM) as well as not feeling like the beginning of something ongoing such as the struggle between the Wraiths and the Prophets. As a consequence, I don't think this one is needed.
- Let He who is without Sin...: I don't think this needs ANY explanation.
- The Darkness and the Light: I think this episode is one that could have been a lot more. It handles difficult subjects, and it's interesting to see Kira's past catch up with her. However, although the Major is a hot head, I don't think she's THIS stupid and irresponsible. That's stretching it too far in my opinion. And that's the main reason I'd want to drop this one.
- A Simple Investigation: Yawn. As simple as that. It really does pretty much nothing for me.
- Ferengi Love Songs: One of the less bearable Ferengi outings. The season would definitely benefit from dropping this one.
- Children of Time: This is an episode I wish I could like. Basically, all the ingredients are there: It's an interesting sci-fi concept that creates an interesting problem which really gets to the heart and core of our characters. Here, the ending screws the entire thing for me. I was really afraid they'd take the usual Trek path - the Heroes are willing to sacrifice their lives (even if that doesn't mean dying in this case) - and sadly, they did just that. It bothers me for a number of reasons. The main problem for me lies with Sisko. There's something like 6000 people on this planet but there's billions of people whose lives he's influencing back on DS9. He's the Captain of one of the most important Federation outposts AND he's the Emissary. There's no doubt in my mind that that outweighs the people on the planet easily. And Sisko should know that. Another thing about it is that in my view, one crew member aboard the Defiant who DOESN'T want to be stranded on the planet but wants to go home should be enough for Sisko to HAVE TO bring the ship back to DS9. I don't think there's anyway he could order his crew to do what they do. And I don't, even for a second, believe that there's not at least one crew member who wants to go back right until the very end. But we see none of this - it's tidily swept under the rug. It's such a shame because this episode IMHO borders on being a classic but then just totally crashes.
MeanJoePhaser
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Toughie, but using the 13 rule...
1. Apocalypse Rising
2. Looking for Par'mach in All the Wrong Places (necessary for Worf-Jadzia relationship)
3. Nor the Battle to the Strong (can't leave this one out)
4. The Assignment (Not ideal to keep but necessary for intro in the Pah Wraiths)
5. The Begotten (restores Odo)
6. For the Uniform
7. In Purgatory's Shadow
8. By Inferno's Light
9. Doctor Bashir, I presume (Bashir's back story)
10. Ties of Blood and Water
11. Soldiers of the Empire
12. Blaze of Glory
13. Call to Arms
Some good 'uns gone, but I'm thinking about tight seasons, as opposed to personal favorites.
1. Apocalypse Rising
2. Looking for Par'mach in All the Wrong Places (necessary for Worf-Jadzia relationship)
3. Nor the Battle to the Strong (can't leave this one out)
4. The Assignment (Not ideal to keep but necessary for intro in the Pah Wraiths)
5. The Begotten (restores Odo)
6. For the Uniform
7. In Purgatory's Shadow
8. By Inferno's Light
9. Doctor Bashir, I presume (Bashir's back story)
10. Ties of Blood and Water
11. Soldiers of the Empire
12. Blaze of Glory
13. Call to Arms
Some good 'uns gone, but I'm thinking about tight seasons, as opposed to personal favorites.
Best season so far; only left six unchecked. People can probably guess which ones...
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