Discussion in 'TV & Media' started by Admiral_Young, Jan 21, 2011.
I agree. I have nothing to add.
Was anyone else hoping that the black market textbook guy would be Gilbert?
That would have been incredible. It wouldn't surprise me if that was the writers intent but Giancarlo Esposito just wasn't available.
I agree that both plots could have been the A plots for their own full episodes. But, it was fairly brilliant how one plotline was a spoof of a Vince Gilligan show, while the other plotline actually had Vince Gilligan in it.
The Dean's rap and then breakdown at the end was hilarious. I liked the use of the eery music from --I believe-- Sneakers throughout the textbook crime plot, which itself seemed to borrow heavily from A Simple Plan and films of that type. Vince Gilligan's part befit the crime theme and was great, especially the end scene with Gina Gershon. I remember playing those stupid VCR games back in the late-80s/early-90s. It was cool that they had songwriter/actor (including on Voyager and B5) Paul Williams as the textbook dealer. He was most recently seen with Daft Punk (who he wrote songs for) at the Grammy's. Abed's cliche rain-soaked movie apology was adorable, as is his girlfriend from 21 Jump Street. It's nice to see them still acknowledge the void Troy's departure has left both in-show and out.
I remember her best from Scott Pilgrim.
United States of TARA!
She sat on a cake for money from internet perverts.
My issue is that they normalizerd Abed just enough that he thinks that Annies brother is weird and off putting, when he shouldn't be able to tell the difference between that guy and jeff's rate of normalcy.
Aspergers doesn't mean you are oblivious to weird behavior, it just means you have trouble detecting social cues and facial expressions.
Not as good as the first D&D episode, but still damn good.
That about sums up my feelings. Though, as someone who does play Roleplaying games, I kept wondering why Abed didn't have them role for initiative. I know, I know, it's a TV show, but Abed's mind aside, it would have been much easier!
Glad to see Hector the Well-Endowed make a comeback. Sad that he died, though.
I thought about that too, but it makes the acting so much easier for the rest of the cast. They can be engaged in their role-playing. Sure, it would have been easy for them to actually role dice, but it's not exactly necessary.
It was done this way in the first one, too. I'm sure they received the same criticism at the time, ignored it, and did this one the same way.
I suppose I get enough Joel McHale on The Soup. That's when his fangs really come out the best.
I always find it odd with D&D is depicted with only the DM rolling the dice. And premade character sheets. But as others pointed out, it helps keep the story going. Still pretty weird though every time I see it.
They didn't roll initiative because it would create a lot of pauses in the narrative, and premade character sheets are because most of them don't know the game well enough and they wanted to trick Hickey & son together.
I agree it was a good episode but not as good as the first D&D. What I liked the best about the episode is the way one chose a violent tactic and the other chose a peaceful tactic and they both made it the same, that really sums up a lot about what makes D&D fun. But what it didn't have is the kind of moments the first one had, like Annie romancing the Elf maiden or Britta trying to fight the unjust treatment of gnomes.
As someone who loved G.I. Joe as a kid, all I can say is SQUEEEEE!
This is why I love the show. An old school video game episode, G.I. Joe, clay episode, and even the muppet episode.
"I hold Britta's head in a puddle!"
This is what happens when you treat beautiful women like men rather than prized sexual objects.
Faces in puddles.
Hickey interrogating two hob-goblins, both played by Abed, in order to extract information, doesn't count as one of those kind of moments?
I also liked how quickly Hickey picked up the rules of the game. "Can I punch him in the heart? I punch him in the heart."
I really enjoyed this episode. I wouldn't say it was better than the last D&D episode, but I think it was pretty close. I've never played the game before, so I like that they streamline it just enough to make it interesting to watch. What I enjoy both about these types of episodes is how interesting it is just to watch these characters sit around and talk. That's a testament to how great these characters have been developed over the past five seasons.
I will say though, that I think overall this season feels a bit all over the place. It doesn't feel like they really have a clear overall theme like Harmon has had with his previous seasons (such as in Season 3 where Jeff realizes he can care about people other than himself). The biggest thing that makes me feel this way though, is the cast, it's expanded to include Chang full time and now Hickey, they just have too many characters and I feel we're losing focus on some of the other characters (Shirley, for example).
Despite that, it's still my favorite comedy on television right now, I just feel a little let down after I binge watched the first three seasons a few months ago.
Chang was always a regular, and he doesn't seem to be used any more than he's been in the past. Also, we lost two regulars this year (Chevy Chase and Donald Glover) and only got one replacement in Hickey.
I would agree season 5 is not on the level of season 2 or 3 but it's better than season 1 and WAY better than 4. Just they're having to spend a lot of time this season on finding a new chemistry when Troy/Abed was the lynchpin of the chemistry.
And I think at this point it's fair to call Buzz Hickey a huge success. Considering just how hard it is to introduce a new character into the late stages of an ensemble show and actually have him fit in, and also to develop him into a robust character without making it seem contrived.
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