Just like the real Vegas, it had a Quark's bar and a brief visit from TNG characters and Borg.
Spoilers On Seven and sexuality
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Just like the real Vegas, it had a Quark's bar and a brief visit from TNG characters and Borg.
A full telepath would have had an easier time of it.
After reading the rest of this thread, I just want to clarify why I said Seven is “queer”, not gay or bi.
I know a lot of people have issues with the million different genders and sexualities that seem to float around with “millennials” these days, but a lot of it comes down to misunderstandings.
I don’t believe Seven is gay, or bi, she is queer. I personally identify as gay, not queer. Queer is basically love for anyone. Your sexuality doesn’t run along gender lines. You’re attracted to the person, not their sex. Someone who is bisexual is attracted to both “men” and “women”. Queer is being attracted to the “person”. I feel this fits more with Sevens personality than her just being a confused lesbian during Voyager, or bi. She’s an intuitive person, and coming from being a Borg, they see “beauty” in everything.
In my studies, plus my own experience, I see sexuality as a spectrum. Not everything, or rather not everyone’s sexuality, is black and white and can be pigeonholed.
Obviously just my opinion
Of course everything is switched in the mirror universe. Maybe pansexual is gender fluid and gender fluid is pansexual in the mirror universe.
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The wormhole alien religion hammered the natural kinks out of Kira.
We don't know that. The ones who are really kinky are often the ones you less suspect.
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Too timid to date a bloke with a transparent skull.
She dated a genderless puddle of fluid. I think she was generally not prejudiced...
Agreed. That's not fair to Beverly.
But I think the problem was, the show would not have Beverly simply admit it.
She could simply say she wasn't attracted to females. But maybe the fear was that by saying that it would hurt that perfect image of human beings in the 24th century.
So she has to reject her, but make it about changing different bodies instead of her gender.
Even though she slept with Riker when he was the host and seemed eager to meet the next host when she thought it would be a male.
The explanation had a 'have your cake and eat it too' aspect to it.
That's the irony right now. Would Trek Picard boldly just say Seven was bi or had a female lover, or just leave subtle hints about it.
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It's a web series.
The FCC can't stop Picard and Seven from jumping into the middle of a graphic Caligularian orgy.
The FCC can't stop Picard and Seven from jumping into the middle of a graphic Caligularian orgy.
No, but there'd be a million pearl-clutching "fans" whining about "agendas", "SJW", "WOKE"... if they openly made such an important character non-straight. Wanting to eat their cake (ppearing enlightened about these issues) and keep it (not annoy too many conservative viewers) is a perfect image for whenever they tried to tackle these things (except for DISC, which I don't like very much as a whole, but in this regard, they were more bold than any other ST incarnation).
The return visit to Risa we didn't know we needed...
Yeah. But fuck those people.
People can have their opinions. IDIC is not just for people I like.
You know, someone at a convention panel will just have to ask them to state the nature of Seven's and Beetlejuice's relationship, as former Seven would have phrased it.
Yeah, that's one of the best things going for the show. With streaming comes a freedom that could not never be had trying to appeal to every single viewpoint.
I just saw an article that claimed the episode confirmed that Seven and Bjayzl were outright lovers .
The dialog itself was kind of ambiguous. You can't really tell. I think they might have jumped the gun on that one.
There was too much fuzzy language about it to be sure.
I think this is why it was easy for some people to feel Beverly was BS-ing Odan- it was really about her gender.
But she couldn't say it. But she couldn't choose to be with Odan either.
Over on Instagram, someone did ask Chabon about this, and he seems to have confirmed it (albeit somewhat obliquely):
From this post.
Damn, I hate the fact that Chabon has quit... He always seems so thoughtful
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