• Welcome! The TrekBBS is the number one place to chat about Star Trek with like-minded fans.
    If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

OMG! New preview! And it's great!

DS9 did it, they had a science Episode in the middle of the Dominion War.

What they were doing was related to the war effort however.

I could see that happening in Discovery, what ever exploration or science effort they’re doing would also be helpful for the war
 
Completely agree. I have never seen one trailer that had any context at all, just some disparate scenes in no particular order. Even if they showed us a solid 5 minute clip it would be impossible to gauge the whole series from it.
Exactly.
I think they could establish relatively quickly that they are explorers AND have theme being thrust into a war, and have that idea reinforced each week as they:

a) Try to explore while the damn war keeps getting in the way
and/or
b) Actively support the war effort/engage in war, but still take time explore and discover while doing so.

I have no idea if that's what will happen, but I'm simply stating that there are ways to both establish/show they are explores while at the same time fighting a war.
This is my thoughts as well. The idea of explorers pushed in to a war is an interesting point of view, one that has been explored in different ways. Captain Georgiou might be the more explorer type who gets shoved up against the violence of war.
 
I think they could establish relatively quickly that they are explorers AND have theme being thrust into a war, and have that idea reinforced each week as they:

a) Try to explore while the damn war keeps getting in the way
and/or
b) Actively support the war effort/engage in war, but still take time explore and discover while doing so.

I have no idea if that's what will happen, but I'm simply stating that there are ways to both establish/show they are explores while at the same time fighting a war.

That's possible but I wonder what you would do with the Klingons during that time. I think it might be possible that some of exploration will be the human characters and Klingon characters trying to learn about each other. Burnham is supose to be some kind of scientist that studies cultures I believe. Maybe they work together in a way their governments don't support and become enemies from their own governments. because they refuse to do something horrible that will kill many innocent people.

Jason
 
I think they could establish relatively quickly that they are explorers AND have theme being thrust into a war, and have that idea reinforced each week as they:

a) Try to explore while the damn war keeps getting in the way
and/or
b) Actively support the war effort/engage in war, but still take time explore and discover while doing so.

I have no idea if that's what will happen, but I'm simply stating that there are ways to both establish/show they are explores while at the same time fighting a war.
I'd comfortably guess a merger of both elements of B.

There's a war on. They need to fight. They're scientists, not soldiers and thus they go off and science to their hearts content with the goal of finding a solution rather than just build bigger guns.
 
I'd comfortably guess a merger of both elements of B.

There's a war on. They need to fight. They're scientists, not soldiers and thus they go off and science to their hearts content with the goal of finding a solution rather than just build bigger guns.
It's amazing how often a middle path exists in these situations.
 
Plans change.

Fuller had plans, too.

They say that year two will address "the aftermath" of the Klingon War.

You know, there was quite an "aftermath" to the Great War. We call it World War II. ;)
Deciding at this point that you know exactly what the second season will do is even dumber than acting like you know what the first season will do. Yes, Tuskin also talked about what the plans are for season 2, but at least he's going by what the writers have said. You're just going by what you assume.
 
I haven't decided that I know anything about the future.

The future is fundamentally unknowable.

On the contrary, the people boosting this show have decided that they know all kinds of things about its future based on spotty evidence. I'm pointing out that they don't know what they want to think they know.

What I have is a response to what I'm seeing right now.
 
Deciding at this point that you know exactly what the second season will do is even dumber than acting like you know what the first season will do. Yes, Tuskin also talked about what the plans are for season 2, but at least he's going by what the writers have said. You're just going by what you assume.

It is silly to think that CBS will want to do a 180 degree turn from the Klingon war if the show is a tremendous success. That simply isn't how TV works.
 
It is silly to think that CBS will want to do a 180 degree turn from the Klingon war if the show is a tremendous success. That simply isn't how TV works.
Did I say that? The writers have said it will focus on the aftermath of the war. Sounds reasonable to me. Plus, AGAIN, the series will feature the war. It won't be about the war. The writers have repeatedly stated that.
 
I haven't decided that I know anything about the future.

On the contrary, the people boosting this show have decided that they know all kinds of things about its future based on spotty evidence. I'm pointing out that they don't know what they want to think they know.

The future is fundamentally unknowable.

What I have is a response to what I'm seeing right now.
The people boosting this show are excited to see it. We're fans. That should be expected.

It's the nay-sayers who are deciding they already know things.
 
The people boosting this show are excited to see it. We're fans. That should be expected.

It's the nay-sayers who are deciding they already know things.
14652573062_5d50d99d32_o.png


Most of the people you're calling "naysayers" are just looking at the promotion and not finding it real promising.
 
I like it, but then again, what do I know?

One thing I'm sick of, and Trek's not the only one at fault with this, is the way the camera shakes when ships blow up. Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think there's concussion waves in space. When there's a kewl 'sploshun, I wanna see the kewl 'sploshun, the camera shaking just obscures it.
 
Come on, you know several are making grandiose claims about the entire first season.

What grandiose claims are being made about the first season? Seriously? People are talking about the trailers and the interviews. You find much to be positive about, and there's nothing wrong about that. Me? I have reservations about what I am seeing, and mentioning them, this is a message board not a pep rally.
 
As for me - as a fan of TOS and that time period, I'm just dissapointed the writers didn't really bother to look a lot at ACTUAL TOS episodes as on social media one of its writers posted a Engineering Console pic with the comment: "Hot Warp Core action!"

If they'd bothered to pay attention to TOS - no one on TOS ever refered to the power source in Engineering as a "Warp Core" <-- That was a Berman & Braga 24th century era Star Trek term. 23rd century Federation ships had: "Matter/Anti-Matter Reactors" and "Pods" or "Nacelles" or "Warp Nacelles and "Anti-Matter Pods".

Now, i get the need to update the set designs and the look, and have no issue with that, but I really hate Trek 24th century technobabble being thrown into the 23rd century Trek era. There's nothing wrong at all with the original technobabble jargon used for TOS; and it just makes me wonder how much of the line "Oh we know and love TOS and have big fans of TOPS on the writing staff..." is just a bunch of PR BS? <--- Will it kill my enjoyment of the series (assuming I like the characters and the story...)? No. But if they're going to go 24th century with everything else, they should stop touting how much 'attention to detail' they did with regard to the 23rd century era they decided to put the show in.

In fact, to be honest - TOS really didn't actually HAVE a lot of 'technobabble' when compared to the Berman & Braga era; so in general I HOPE they would respect that to; but given what I've seen and heard from the staff themselves at various Con and Press Panels posted on Youtube - that's probably a dead hope as well, especially with an ST:VOY novel author as a lead writer for the show. I mean you want to talk about a Star Trek series that made entire episodes of technobabble dialogue (that sucked) - that Star Trek: Voyager in a nutshell <-- And the only Star trek series I quit watching (after "The 37's"); and I've been watching Star Trek first run since 1969 on NBC (I was 6 and really into space based science fiction and a big fan of NASA manned spaceflight at that age too.)

It seems less like you want them to respect the history, and more like you expect them to be TOS purists and pretend Berman & Braga never happened.

During TOS and TMP it was envisioned by the writers and artists that photon torpedoes were nothing but pure energy, but that was never confirmed on screen, and then it was confirmed in TWOK that they had physical casings, which continued into every subsequent production. Should we imagine that never existed before just because the TOS writers never thought of it? In-universe it makes the most sense that they always had casings, and they were just never mentioned during TOS.

The same applies to the term "warp core", which was used in ENT. And before you go cursing Berman's name for that, remember who actually put it there: Doug Drexler, a raging TOS fanboy. You were six in 1969? Doug was staying up late on school nights to watch Scotty drive starships while you were still in diapers. He worked on the TOS sets for the throwback episodes in TNG, DS9, and ENT... and he also put a warp core underneath Engineering on the TOS Constitution. Are you going to tell me Doug "didn't really bother to look a lot at ACTUAL TOS episodes" now?
 
It seems less like you want them to respect the history, and more like you expect them to be TOS purists and pretend Berman & Braga never happened.

Since the show takes place nine years prior to TOS, you would expect the terminology to line up more to it than shows taking place a century prior and after.
 
Last edited:
I wish they had just said "Ya know what? This is a STRAIGHT reboot with no relation to canon." That way they could avoid all the mess.
 
Last edited:
If you are not already a member then please register an account and join in the discussion!

Sign up / Register


Back
Top