OMG! New preview! And it's great!

[Jayson1]

Clearly

Clearly you're only making assumptions off short clips from one episode.
Clearly you know everything from a 60-second clip.
Clearly all 15 episodes will be distilled into just what we've seen, even though they're still filming.
Clearly what the production team said means nothing.

Clearly

Haven't the writers already stated the show will be about war? The only question is what else it will be about. Will it be character oriented or a action adventure aproach or a more bleak way of dealing with war. Is their going to be any exploring involved that will require some sense of wonder or will they take a more contemporary way of looking at the universe. Is the comedy going to be dark humor or will it be poking fun at cliches or will it be from snappy character exchanges.

Jason

 

[starmike]

Haven't the writers already stated the show will be about war? The only question is what else it will be about. Will it be character oriented or a action adventure aproach or a more bleak way of dealing with war. Is their going to be any exploring involved that will require some sense of wonder or will they take a more contemporary way of looking at the universe. Is the comedy going to be dark humor or will it be poking fun at cliches or will it be from snappy character exchanges.

Jason

If you've truly followed the writers, then you already know the answers.

Clearly, you haven't.

 

[Jayson1]

If you've truly followed the writers, then you already know the answers.

Clearly, you haven't.

We know the show is going to try and explore issue's going on in society from today but that is kind of vague. A show like "Supergirl" and "Mr Robot" can say the same thing and both be right but it doesn't mean they don't have two different styles. Also we don't know how much angst to action to humor levels it will be or will it be like old Trek and maybe one week you get a comedy ep and next week a horror story. The gloomy lighting kind of says lots and lots of angst but then again shows can look like one thing is still have tons of stuff you didn't expect.

Jason

 

[starmike]

We know the show is going to try and explore issue's going on in society from today but that is kind of vague. A show like "Supergirl" and "Mr Robot" can say the same thing and both be right but it doesn't mean they don't have two different styles. Also we don't know how much angst to action to humor levels it will be or will it be like old Trek and maybe one week you get a comedy ep and next week a horror story. The gloomy lighting kind of says lots and lots of angst but then again shows can look like one thing is still have tons of stuff you didn't expect.

Jason

Gloomy lighting. Well, I guess that answers everything.

 

[Jayson1]

Gloomy lighting. Well, I guess that answers everything.

What's wrong with the word, gloomy? Plenty of great shows and movies have it. I guess you could call it dark or if it was a wee brighter, subdued but I kind of like saying gloomy. It's a more fun word to use.

Jason

 

[starmike]

What's wrong with the word, gloomy? Plenty of great shows and movies have it. I guess you could call it dark or if it was a wee brighter, subdued but I kind of like saying gloomy. It's a more fun word to use.

Jason

You're making assumptions based on lighting. There have been a total of about 4 minutes out of 15 hours shown. I even saw someone complain that the SPACE shots were dark. I mean, COME. ON.

 

[Noname Given]

We already know Season 2 won't be about the war, so not the entire series is.

^^^
Getting a bit ahead of the curve as I don't believe the show has been renewed as yet (Call me crazy, but they probably want to see the actual reception and how it performs with regards to generating and retaining subscriptions to CBSAA. Not intimating it won't be renewed either, but it's hardly a 100% certainty.)

As for me - as a fan of TOS and that time period, I'm just dissapointed the writers didn't really bother to look a lot at ACTUAL TOS episodes as on social media one of its writers posted a Engineering Console pic with the comment: "Hot Warp Core action!"

If they'd bothered to pay attention to TOS - no one on TOS ever refered to the power source in Engineering as a "Warp Core" <-- That was a Berman & Braga 24th century era Star Trek term. 23rd century Federation ships had: "Matter/Anti-Matter Reactors" and "Pods" or "Nacelles" or "Warp Nacelles and "Anti-Matter Pods".

Now, i get the need to update the set designs and the look, and have no issue with that, but I really hate Trek 24th century technobabble being thrown into the 23rd century Trek era. There's nothing wrong at all with the original technobabble jargon used for TOS; and it just makes me wonder how much of the line "Oh we know and love TOS and have big fans of TOPS on the writing staff..." is just a bunch of PR BS? <--- Will it kill my enjoyment of the series (assuming I like the characters and the story...)? No. But if they're going to go 24th century with everything else, they should stop touting how much 'attention to detail' they did with regard to the 23rd century era they decided to put the show in.

In fact, to be honest - TOS really didn't actually HAVE a lot of 'technobabble' when compared to the Berman & Braga era; so in general I HOPE they would respect that to; but given what I've seen and heard from the staff themselves at various Con and Press Panels posted on Youtube - that's probably a dead hope as well, especially with an ST:VOY novel author as a lead writer for the show. I mean you want to talk about a Star Trek series that made entire episodes of technobabble dialogue (that sucked) - that Star Trek: Voyager in a nutshell <-- And the only Star trek series I quit watching (after "The 37's"); and I've been watching Star Trek first run since 1969 on NBC (I was 6 and really into space based science fiction and a big fan of NASA manned spaceflight at that age too.)

 

[Roald]

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As for me - as a fan of TOS and that time period, I'm just dissapointed the writers didn't really bother to look a lot at ACTUAL TOS episodes as on social media one of its writers posted a Engineering Console pic with the comment: "Hot Warp Core action!"

If they'd bothered to pay attention to TOS - no one on TOS ever refered to the power source in Engineering as a "Warp Core" <-- That was a Berman & Braga 24th century era Star Trek term. 23rd century Federation ships had: "Matter/Anti-Matter Reactors" and "Pods" or "Nacelles" or "Warp Nacelles and "Anti-Matter Pods".

We also never saw a female captain on TOS..... certain things have to be let go, including '60's terminology... you really want to see data TAPES again?

 

[Thefallguy]

So you really want to start an argument wether or not they are allowed to use the word warp core? Ok...

And by the way, you quit watching Voyager after the 37s? Why? That was a really great episode! (Not being much of a VOY Fan myself)

 

[Noname Given]

So you really want to start an argument wether or not they are allowed to use the word warp core? Ok...

And by the way, you quit watching Voyager after the 37s? Why? That was a really great episode! (Not being much of a VOY Fan myself)

No, I'm not 'starting an argument' about it as they can write it however they want. My point is that they've been making a point about how excited they are to be back in the TOS era; yet in a lot of respects they're throwing out a lot of the terminology established FOR that era. That's not an argument - it's an observation.

As for "The 37's" what finally convinced me the writers didn't care was that NO ONE AT ALL (especially any of the Maqui crew) wanted to stay behind. ST:VOY started out with a GREAT premise:

- Two sections of crew with greatly differing philosophies have to work together to survive and make a long journey across the Galaxy to get home.

It was said how by about the 4th episode that premise had been all but abandoned; and as the show went on - it more became TNG lite - where half the time they never seemed to be at Warp (much less a 'sustained Warp speed of 9.97) = they sure suddenly seemed to be taking a leasurly pace back to the Alpha Quadrant.

Then there was "Bi-Polar Captain Janeway" - who one week was ready to abandon Star Fleet/Federation principles and risk the ship for one crewman; yet the next week she was ready to sacrifice EVERYONE to UPHOLD Star Fleet principles.
^^^
if would have been nice if the writing staff could have picked a personality for her and stuck with it - AND/OR - show if she was changing her thought processes in that regard, watch it evolve to what they wanted because of events that occurred as they traveled back to the Alpha quadrant. But no, consistency didn't seem to be a concern in the ST:VOY writer's room. YMMV.

 

[Mage]

So many comments from the creators of the show on how conflict is part of the show, but not the main part. That war is a part of it, but not what the show is about. How the Discovery is a science vessel and basicly stuck in a war now.

And SO many comments from SO many people trying to explain that trailers are made by external companies. That they are always made to show as much action as possible, to draw people in, not realising that that's not always what people want.

And still..... Still, fans are convinced that this show is about war. Why? Because they feel they know better.
"I have seen the trailer shots, it shows enough!!" Yes, in total, we've seen between 3 or 4 minutes of footage, including spacebattles from probably ONE episode. You've seen 4 minutes of footage, and you think you can decide what a grand total of roughly 900 minutes of tv will be like?? Talk about arrogance.

Deep Space Nine had a war arc for two seasons. Two seasons of an actual, open war. Not every episode was about that war.

 

[Captain of the USS Averof]

So far they're only promoting pew-pew space battles and one-liner tag-lines.

The show can't/won't be only that.

 

[Mage]

Haven't the writers already stated the show will be about war?

Then you haven't payed attention. They said there IS a war. Not that the show is about that war. During the Second World War, the US was fighting in it. For most people, the only actual aspect of that war was what was in the papers. They didn't actually experience that war. Their daily lives just went on. You can tell a thousand types of stories in a universe where a war is going on. You can even have episodes that are completely without any kind of battle, and still show the emotional aspect of what happens to people during a time of war. Discovery is orbiting a planet while making some repairs after a heavy battle. People take some time to explore this new planet. Talk amongst themselves, about what this conflict is doing to them. Making a new discovery on the planet in the mean time.

 

[cultcross]

So far they're only promoting pew-pew space battles and one-liner tag-lines.

The show can't/won't be only that.

Exactly, all trailers do that. They want explosions and clichéd one liners you don't have to follow the show to understand. You're not going to see touching character moments, exposition, in depth discussions, or any story beat it will take longer than 3 seconds to understand in a trailer. The question will be, are those in there when we get to the real show. Suggestion is from the interviews that there is a lot more to the show than the pew pew.

 

[Refuge]

You're making assumptions based on lighting. There have been a total of about 4 minutes out of 15 hours shown. I even saw someone complain that the SPACE shots were dark. I mean, COME. ON.

We are all basing our opinions on what we have seen. There is nothing wrong with that.

 

[somebuddyX]

Trailer looks neat. Now that Dark Matter is gone it'd be cool to have another space series to watch.

 

[Refuge]

So you really want to start an argument wether or not they are allowed to use the word warp core? Ok...

And by the way, you quit watching Voyager after the 37s? Why? That was a really great episode! (Not being much of a VOY Fan myself)

I enjoyed the 37s. Damn it was cool watching a Starship land.

 

[Refuge]

No, I'm not 'starting an argument' about it as they can write it however they want. My point is that they've been making a point about how excited they are to be back in the TOS era; yet in a lot of respects they're throwing out a lot of the terminology established FOR that era. That's not an argument - it's an observation.

As for "The 37's" what finally convinced me the writers didn't care was that NO ONE AT ALL (especially any of the Maqui crew) wanted to stay behind. ST:VOY started out with a GREAT premise:

- Two sections of crew with greatly differing philosophies have to work together to survive and make a long journey across the Galaxy to get home.

It was said how by about the 4th episode that premise had been all but abandoned; and as the show went on - it more became TNG lite - where half the time they never seemed to be at Warp (much less a 'sustained Warp speed of 9.97) = they sure suddenly seemed to be taking a leasurly pace back to the Alpha Quadrant.

Then there was "Bi-Polar Captain Janeway" - who one week was ready to abandon Star Fleet/Federation principles and risk the ship for one crewman; yet the next week she was ready to sacrifice EVERYONE to UPHOLD Star Fleet principles.
^^^
if would have been nice if the writing staff could have picked a personality for her and stuck with it - AND/OR - show if she was changing her thought processes in that regard, watch it evolve to what they wanted because of events that occurred as they traveled back to the Alpha quadrant. But no, consistency didn't seem to be a concern in the ST:VOY writer's room. YMMV.

I love Voyager. I can only hope Discovery will be any way as good..

 

[Ridcully]

Looks great!
There will always be complainers...in abundance too!
As most prove without even talking much about it, conflict is build into us!
All the other aspects are not shown yet, not much as it is, but I think we have something more fresh coming our way!
Change is needed!

Take Game of Thrones, and only show the gore and battles....what would anyone think then???
And why spoil us with the story details??
Where is the sense of adventure?
Conservative closedminded "fans"....
It is the dark ages

 

[KennyB]

So many Chicken Littles in here judging a 15 hour show on :90 second trailers...........same people in a few weeks "We need more action!"