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Omega Directive

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Janeway states that only Captains and Flag Officers were briefed on it. Would that mean that if she had died Chakotay or Cavit (had he survived) would not know about it? Does that only count for O-6 ranks and above? What about the Lieutenant Commanders or Commanders commanding smaller vessels such as Defiant class ships? Would they not know about it?
 
Janeway states that only Captains and Flag Officers were briefed on it. Would that mean that if she had died Chakotay or Cavit (had he survived) would not know about it? Does that only count for O-6 ranks and above? What about the Lieutenant Commanders or Commanders commanding smaller vessels such as Defiant class ships? Would they not know about it?

I assume she means Captains and Admirals above. No one else unless they encounter the Omega particle and get read in.

And no, Chakotay clearly didn't know until it happened.
 
One would assume since that big Ω pops up on the screen, any captain who has not been read in would still try to access the data. The computer, knowing who is captain of the ship would probably grant access to the data, especially if it's so blasted important enough to violate the prime directive.

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I guess even the red squad cadets on the Valiant would get access if no one is left on board who outranks them XD
 
In general, the CO of a ship is either rated or considered the captain. So Chakotay or Tuvok would probably have been made aware of it if they formally assumed command.
 
One would assume since that big Ω pops up on the screen, any captain who has not been read in would still try to access the data. The computer, knowing who is captain of the ship would probably grant access to the data, especially if it's so blasted important enough to violate the prime directive.

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That is the stupidest way to announce a top secret protocol. It locks up the entire ship's system but only captains know what it means.

In general, the CO of a ship is either rated or considered the captain. So Chakotay or Tuvok would probably have been made aware of it if they formally assumed command.
Yes, I would imagine there are a number of protocols to review if one is made captain, even in a temporary capacity.
 
In general, the CO of a ship is either rated or considered the captain. So Chakotay or Tuvok would probably have been made aware of it if they formally assumed command.
Yes, I would imagine there are a number of protocols to review if one is made captain, even in a temporary capacity.

I agree. However, Tuvok apparently did not know about the Omega Directive, despite him being acting captain for at least a few weeks, in Resolutions, and at the time it had all appearances that situation would become permanent. So when would Tuvok have been informed? Would he have been 'acting captain' all the way home, had they not been able to cure Janeway & Chakotay?
 
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Janeway states that only Captains and Flag Officers were briefed on it. Would that mean that if she had died Chakotay or Cavit (had he survived) would not know about it? Does that only count for O-6 ranks and above? What about the Lieutenant Commanders or Commanders commanding smaller vessels such as Defiant class ships? Would they not know about it?
As others said, I think she meant Captain rank and above.

I imagine one of the things she did given the situation Voyager was in, was to have a packet of information about various sensitive topics ready to be shared with Chakotay (or whoever would take c ommand) should she die.
 
While we're on the subject, the researchers who created the Omega molecules survived their experience. So what's to stop them from simply redoing the experiment now that Voyager is gone?
 
While we're on the subject, the researchers who created the Omega molecules survived their experience. So what's to stop them from simply redoing the experiment now that Voyager is gone?
Absolutely nothing. It was a really good concept wrapped in a bad story. They could have preserved most of the story as is if the Omega Molecules / their reactor was some relic of a long dead alien race that was destroyed by their experiment a million years ago, and that it had just been uncovered as Voyager was passing by. You could have a mad scramble between a few local aliens (and maybe the Borg) to control it. But that way, you close off the plot hole of people still knowing how to make these things.
 
I agree. However, Tuvok apparently did not know about the Omega Directive, despite him being acting captain for at least a few weeks, in Resolutions, and at the time it had all appearances that situation would become permanent. So when would Tuvok have been informed? Would he have been 'acting captain' all the way home, had they not been able to cure Janeway & Chakotay?
I would imagine that the protocol would involve a "bringing in" for the acting captains if the protocol is activated while they are in command. Otherwise, acting captains would have access to a variety of information that they would not need to know in their temporary capacity.
While we're on the subject, the researchers who created the Omega molecules survived their experience. So what's to stop them from simply redoing the experiment now that Voyager is gone?
Nothing. Omega is a ridiculous plot device best left in the warehouse next to the Genesis Device and the Ark of the Covenant.
 
I would imagine that the protocol would involve a "bringing in" for the acting captains if the protocol is activated while they are in command. Otherwise, acting captains would have access to a variety of information that they would not need to know in their temporary capacity.

That would be reasonable. Except of course, for those situations where there would simply be no time for these acting captains to be brought up to speed (and the Omega Directive might be one of those cases, if the situation were urgent enough).

Nothing. Omega is a ridiculous plot device best left in the warehouse next to the Genesis Device and the Ark of the Covenant.

I always detested the approach of this 'even primer than the prime directive but we've kept it secret until now!' gimmick just for the purposes of telling a single episode story. It reeks of lazy writing just to impress the idea that the problem cannot be ignored.
 
While we're on the subject, the researchers who created the Omega molecules survived their experience. So what's to stop them from simply redoing the experiment now that Voyager is gone?

One limiting factor that never seems to enter into science fiction, or even into the minds of futurists is money. I imagine a project such at that would take a substantial investment. To lose everything and have to start over at the very least would put the project back for an extended period of time, one in which Voyager would be long gone (since they cannot stay around).
 
That's the only hope, isn't it? That the society that was creating the particles will run out of resources, and either descend into barbarism and obliterate its entire body of knowledge, or just plain starve. Because if it survives, sooner or later it will try again. The destruction of one species verses the destruction of a corner of the galaxy... an ugly choice, but a very straightforward one.
 
I assume the captain has some encrypted file of information that would (somehow) securely pass to her successor, if she died. This would include her command codes, the information on the Omega Directive, and other such things.
 
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