I struggle with a lot of Trek's aging messaging.
Old Star Trek fans: don't you sometimes get happy just because there are new series?
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Interesting you mention that because that's basically the plot of the Disney Movie Up. Just because you are old doesn't mean you can't have newer adventures. They may be different, but that's life.
Nooooooooooooo. That's not really what I was trying to say. I meant there are some older fans and I'm talking about people I have met personally that don't want any kind of change from what they think works, and any attempt to make Trek more modern and feel more relatable is pure sacrilege, that's what I meant by sticks up their bum. There are those kind of fans who view any change as bad.
I guess that Trek is interpreted by fans in various different ways, and thats totally fine.
Pic S3, to me, was more like "never too old to have new adventures with the people you love". A very positive and uplifting message, as you get older.
Absolutely this. If they knew they were writing to a 3 act structure, they could have planned that out. Instead we get a DSC type situation where each season is somehow a reaction to perceived ‘problems’ from the previous.
I don’t think it’s comparable to The Acolyte and its cancellation and I don’t think that cancellation was ever on the cards for PIC. It was a vehicle for a legit Hollywood star and a beloved character.
With a little thought, it could have been so much more. I don’t hate it, but it’s certainly a wasted opportunity on the whole.
It really points to having no vision, beyond “how can we come up with a bigger hook, next season?”
It ends up being paper thin and unsatisfying.
Season 1 - As it was. There is a vision running through the first season.
Season 2 - Do Q. He’s a massive part of Picard’s experience aboard the Enterprise, so one final game, sans Borg, would have been sufficient.
Season 3 - The Reunion. Again, no Borg required. I think the reunion was inevitable, and I’m glad it happened, but so much else got thrown into the pot.
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Personally, I thought it was rather embarrassing to see a group of senior citizens back on their old set from the 1990s trying to act like the last thirty years hadn't happened.
Watch it again. You missed the whole point that the senior citizens were back on their old set acting like 30 years HAD happened. Every single character was completely different and shaped by the time between. Every.
I commented elsewhere that I think that was the purpose but it unfortunately came across as "only on the Enterprise did their lives matter".
I don't think I got that impression, but it's like I said about interpretation.
I've now noticed that every single member of the main cast has had a kid, which is quite dramatic in terms of change. Even Data, and he's been dead! Quite the feat.
I don't think it was completely intentional, but with a repeat of the enemy, with the D being the only way to save the day, the lack of trust for anyone but the core, it was less than satisfying.
I suppose...but mainly in regards with repeating the enemy so soon. The impact of an "old foe" being defeated by an "old crew" would've had more value. It was unfortunate, let's just say.
I'm always maintained that S2 would've benefitted from only having a passing reference to the borg, and perhaps, simply using Borg technology to time travel. Apart from Soong, I feel that a better antagonist would've been a confederate crew travelling back to stop our heroes from correcting the timeline. Sort of like a reverse First Contact, with a touch of The Terminator.
Again, I'll reiterate, Season 3 is not bad. It had some genuinely great moments with Worf and Riker, in particular, and Data's rebirth was a interesting approach that made me more invested in that character's history than any time before.
It also utilized Riker and Troi's arc from Season 1 very well and really expanded upon the idea that things are never just black and white.
But, yeah, the use of the Borg, the mystery box style storytelling, the negative reception by other Starfleet officers was completely frustrating a message of the ride off of into the sunset message.
And, yes, agree on S2. There needed to be more of a threat than just Soong.
Only two places I want to see TNG characters on TV now, are either in a reboot or in a nursing home waving as the Enterprise-XYZ is leaving port.
They can do the McCoy part from "Encounter at Farpoint" for Star Trek: XYZ's pilot
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