Ok. What is the chance of a Picard spinoff?
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Well, if anyone with the big bucks reads this thread and is willing to put the money in? It can be a vanity project for them if nothing else… please send Terry Matalas a PM on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/terrymatalas if you think that you can help the campaign for his show in a financial capacity. Anyone willing to part fund this show needs to realise that they have no creative control over what is actually produced, they are just passively paying for their own form of expensive entertainment, knowing that millions of other people will enjoy it too and that merchandising/advertising could potentially bring back a profit.
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Great, even more Executive Producer credits.
Those are my thoughts exactly. I just don't see one series with the original Enterprise and another with the Enterprise-G being produced together. It'd be overkill, even for Paramount+. I think SNW would have to end first, IMO.
This is one of the big things against Legacy as an "Enterprise show". SNW exists (and is quite good, and popular). And the 1701-G looks so much like the Discoprise, that I bet plenty of people didn't realize it was the Titan, and not the Discoprise, in the "Star Trek" brand bumper, for much of the season. I usually don't take brand confusion seriously, but here the potential is huge.
The way out of it is to not make Legacy an Enterprise show. It could have the Enterprise in it, and be the ship of the show, but the show could be more about the characters and situation, discovery style, than the adventures of the ship.
But at the same time, having the show's lead by Seven of Nine, the last "new" main character of the Berman era 25 years ago, now the enterprise captain being the first woman to say the immortal "Space... the Final Frontier... these are the voyages of the Starship Enterprise" may be too much of a hook for Paramount to ignore.
There are ways around this, especially if the shows don't lead into each other, and instead are spaced out by 8+ months or more, like this season of SNW and Discovery (which may be part of the long tail of pandemic development). Marketing can shift people's attention that way. But this is certainly a minefield.
Another option is to do a refinement on the 1701-G's interior and exterior before a season to differentiate it. I know David Blass said if he had more money, he had a bunch of changes he wanted to make to the bridge to make it different from the Stargazer.
I didn't say that Jack wouldn't be part of Legacy, but I don't see him sticking around on the Enterprise. Same with Raffi.
Hadn't considered that. Another reason they should've not renamed Titan. Or named it the USS Picard or even the USS Shaw.
After all the trouble Matalas went through to place them there?
Calling it the Enterprise was absolutely the right call from every story and plot progression angle. Far, far better than the USS Picard (which they did consider).
This problem, as I wrote above, isn't easy but it is very solvable. Marketing shouldn't constrain story like that.
Jack and Raffi on the Enterprise don't feel like good fits to me. Raffi in large part because of her relationship with Seven. If they had her as captain or first officer on another ship-I'm guessing Starfleet is in need of more captains right now-that makes more sense. It also feels righter that Raffi would go off on more adventures with Worf. Though I was also thinking it would've been nice if Raffi and Jack, who both seem to work well outside the strictures of Starfleet-had taken off in the La Sirena to help people who the Federation didn't or wasn't able to.
If Legacy happens, I hope they say it's a few years later and shakeup the cast a bit. I still would like Raffi and Jack to be part of the series, just not in the roles they were in in the finale. I could see Raffi and Jack more like Book on Discovery.
From your lips to Terry's ears.
Jack's being set up to be a lead in Terry's show. So, I'm thinking he stays put.
From your lips to Terry's ears.
Jack's being set up to be a lead in Terry's show. So, I'm thinking he stays put.
If that's the case, I think that would be the wrong way to go. It should be Seven's series. Jack of course could play an important part. Seven is a character that better connects old and new Trek together. Perhaps by the end of the series run that would be Jack (or Sidney for that matter), but I think it could be a mistake to not build the series around her.
Jack may be Terry's wish fulfillment character. The Kirk is strong in that one.
It will be interesting to hear how few complaints there will be over Jack compared to say Michael Burnham or even Wesley as he saves the Enterprise-G every week.
People were very quick to call Burnham a Mary Sue, even if she was intended to be the lead in a series of her own rather than an already existing one. It would be interesting if Jack is treated the same way (or not) if all this talk of him being in a PIC spinoff comes to pass.
We'll see how his genius intellect, roguish charm, mad martial arts skills and telepathy play out.
By the time Legacy hits the airwaves, it probably WILL be a few years later.
I'm seeing Jack as more of the show's Wesley Crusher (Shaw relied on him to bail out Titan).
Just like his brother, he's a genius with little experience in dealing with people (he and Beverly were alone for so long).
I'm stunned they got her for a movie. She must really want to do it.Good luck getting the insanely busy Michelle Yeoh to commit to a series.
She seems to be very positive towards Star Trek.
I hope they don't take too long... the folks aren't getting any younger if Star Trek Legacy is a telling of Enterprise G's maiden voyage with those characters. I'd love it if the G incorporated the cloaking device into its future arsenal, not just a one-off.
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