It absolutely has changed. Massively. TV is always reflective of the time it is made in. Whether it be a cop drama or a sci-fi series.
Star Trek was never meant to be an anchor of a TV franchise.
It absolutely has changed. Massively. TV is always reflective of the time it is made in. Whether it be a cop drama or a sci-fi series.
Star Trek was never meant to be an anchor of a TV franchise.
I'm not sure what you mean by the "CBS says it's[sic] canon argument". As the rightsholder, CBS gets to declare what is or isn't canon. That's not an argument; it's merely a fact. Perhaps I've misinterpreted you?
And unless you're planning to write Trek novels or such, what is or isn't canon seems as though it should be pretty irrelevant, unless you're arguing with someone over whether or not something occurred within the canonical works or such.
...or you're (the general you, not you specifically) one of those people who doesn't really know what the word 'canon' means and uses terms like 'headcanon' when a less misleading term would be 'personal continuity'.
My apologies I misunderstood what you meant. Yes its very nature as a TV show indeed reflects the eras they were made in. Quite unfortunately so for TOS and the 60s sensibilities therein.
They can declare all they want. It doesn’t make their product any better. Instead of handing decrees from the corporate office they had focused on better storytelling we wouldn’t be headed for another Trek hiatus.
I’ve said all along that the only thing CBS should have ever publicly said about canon is that they will tell try to tell the best stories possible and let the fans sort out how it all fit together.
I miss the days when “canon” wasn’t connected to Trek. When it was just about enjoying the stories.
That's probably what they intended by being so vague without saying "trek is too woke" I get it you don't like it why continue to watch it then?
Because many viewers have invested a lot of their time and money in the franchise. There’s always that hope of recapturing past glory in some small way.
Subjectivity. I can quite confidently tell you just for example Academy season 1 is better than a few seasons of TNG.
We probably would anyway the streaming bubble is sort of bursting and Trek is a bit too niche to hold an entire platform afloat.
Those 90’s catsuits aren’t aging particularly well.
Right now, I have SFA at two “goodish” episodes, two mediocre and three that are pretty bad. Which isn’t in the same national park of pretty much any Berman season and I’m quite critical of the Berman years.
I feel that way every time I watch a new episode. Academy, SNW, Lower Decks, Picard and Discovery all take me to my Trek themed happy place, the exact same as DS9, Voyager, TNG and Enterprise.
On the one hand I suppose good on you for not giving up hope but on the other sometimes there comes a point where the only reasonable course of action is to quit.
They most certainly are not.
I’ve been watching for fifty years and Trek helped me through a pretty traumatic childhood. So, I’ll always give it a chance to impress me. The Kurtzman-era animated shows have impressed me immensely. The live-action stuff is another matter entirely. I’ve eventually given up on each of those. Well, except SFA, not sure if I’ll continue with it or not. It does have bright spots.
Plus, we really can’t afford to have anyone quit, if the franchise is to hang around.
I'm sorry that happened to you.
I'm sorry that the new stuff doesnt bring you the joy it brings me.
It'll probably always be around, we're most likely heading to reboot town anyway and my stop is before then.
Just look at the flap over TAS and you'll understand tht canon argument. "Real Star Trek" started when Roddenberry started insisting this entertainment franchise carried a deeper meaning and only real Trek mattered.
With a franchise using time travel the idea of "true Trek" falls apart. Things can change because of any number of factors from the Temporal Wars and other such nonsense.
I’ll always give a Trek show the opportunity to impress me.
I'm good without Trek.
I lived through the 70’s and 80’s and after Enterprise was cancelled, dry spells don’t really phase me anymore.
I had TOS on VHS. I move on through various Trek shows and films. It peaked for me in 09. There's nothing more the franchise needs to do nor am I owed anything by it.
That day won't be here until 2061 under current US copyright law. Buuuuuuut, that's only confined to stuff from the first half of the first season.
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